On 4. May 2022, at 18:36, Thiede, Christoph Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de wrote:

Hi Marcel,

(currently I have switched to the digest subscription option so that I can receive your answers :D)

Thanks for the details!

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... and Tobias just told me that mailman does not change that stuff but forwards the content it gets. So the issue is how mail clients or SMTP servers push out that stuff. And we cannot control that.

This is strange ...

Object pinning vs. garbage collection

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We are sending messages for commits to VMMaker and Trunk to vm-dev and squeak-dev. Do those look okay on vm -dev for you?

I have not subscribed enough time ago to receive any VMMaker message. I will report back. :-)

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What about my messages to vm-dev from April 2022? Were you subscribed then?

For instance in the thread "Object pinning vs. garbage collection", I cannot read any of your messages:

Well, OWA is dumb as heck. It has no idea of multipart mixed, apparently and freely reëncodes emails you sent over it. Avoid it like plague.

-t

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Best, Christoph

Von: Vm-dev vm-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org im Auftrag von vm-dev-request@lists.squeakfoundation.org vm-dev-request@lists.squeakfoundation.org Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2022 16:41 Uhr An: vm-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Betreff: Vm-dev Digest, Vol 191, Issue 2

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Today's Topics:

1. [list] Cannot receive plain-text messages (Thiede, Christoph)
2. Re: [list] Cannot receive plain-text messages (Marcel Taeumel)
3. Re: [list] Cannot receive plain-text messages (Marcel Taeumel)

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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 13:58:03 +0000 From: "Thiede, Christoph" Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de To: "vm-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org" vm-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [Vm-dev] [list] Cannot receive plain-text messages Message-ID: 3483f711b6594b8bbf9a313a2af667c3@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi all,

while I have subscribed to squeak-dev for a longer time, I only subscribed recently to vm-dev. Unfortunately, I cannot view most messages in my e-mail client - I only see an attachment of the HTML file. It appears as if the plaintext version of the message is missing and the HTML version is classified incorrectly. This does not regard messages from the OSVM bot (GitHub) only but also normal messages sent by Eliot, Marcel, et al. - but at the same time, the messages sent by the same person to squeak-dev look fine on my end.

In other mailing clients (and in Squeak Inbox Talk), everything looks fine, but I do not want to switch away from OWA. In the message headers, I could not find any interesting difference. My subscription settings for both lists are identical. I also noted that the pipermail archives do not look identical, but this is probably unrelated.

Any ideas on what might cause this, and any chance to fix this in the mailing list configuration/servers?

Thanks in advance,

Christoph