Hi,
Just to refresh my skill on compiling the Squeak VM (I'd like to play with Kinect; I found some efforts like: http://tecnodacta.com.ar/gira/ but want to make a plugin that is suitable for my need.)
Let us say I'd like to compile a VM and my plugins on Mac, what are the right steps? (I had some experiences with VMMaker but that was before I need to specify Interpreter class name in the VMMakerTool, for example.
I added VMMaker repository in the Monticello browser, and opened it. As trying to just load VMMaker shows a warning of missing FFI constants, I turned to 'update' and load update-dtl.17.mcm. Is this a right thing to do?
But then, trying to load update-dtl.17.mcm onto the VM and image in the 5.0 all in one package, the VM crashes. Do you see this?
I'd like to get the files and image set up so that I can compile an external plugin, preferably for Cog/Spur. Some up to date guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Hi Yoshiki
If you checkout the source code from git and go to the oscogvm/image directory are several scripts you can open in a workspace and 'do it' (or filein, i think)
The one I use is BuildSqueakSpurTrunkVMMakerImage.st
I am assuming you are running Cog/Spur to power a trunk image.
---- On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 16:13:54 -0400 Yoshiki Ohshima <Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org> wrote ----
Hi,
Just to refresh my skill on compiling the Squeak VM (I'd like to play with Kinect; I found some efforts like: http://tecnodacta.com.ar/gira/ but want to make a plugin that is suitable for my need.)
Let us say I'd like to compile a VM and my plugins on Mac, what are the right steps? (I had some experiences with VMMaker but that was before I need to specify Interpreter class name in the VMMakerTool, for example.
I added VMMaker repository in the Monticello browser, and opened it. As trying to just load VMMaker shows a warning of missing FFI constants, I turned to 'update' and load update-dtl.17.mcm. Is this a right thing to do?
But then, trying to load update-dtl.17.mcm onto the VM and image in the 5.0 all in one package, the VM crashes. Do you see this?
I'd like to get the files and image set up so that I can compile an external plugin, preferably for Cog/Spur. Some up to date guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 4:13 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org wrote:
Hi,
Just to refresh my skill on compiling the Squeak VM (I'd like to play with Kinect; I found some efforts like: http://tecnodacta.com.ar/gira/ but want to make a plugin that is suitable for my need.)
Let us say I'd like to compile a VM and my plugins on Mac, what are the right steps? (I had some experiences with VMMaker but that was before I need to specify Interpreter class name in the VMMakerTool, for example.
I added VMMaker repository in the Monticello browser, and opened it. As trying to just load VMMaker shows a warning of missing FFI constants, I turned to 'update' and load update-dtl.17.mcm. Is this a right thing to do?
But then, trying to load update-dtl.17.mcm onto the VM and image in the 5.0 all in one package, the VM crashes. Do you see this?
I'd like to get the files and image set up so that I can compile an external plugin, preferably for Cog/Spur. Some up to date guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Use a combination of... * https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/vm/blob/Cog/CONTRIBUTING.md * http://www.mirandabanda.org/cogblog/compiling-the-vm/
Thank you Timothy and Ben! I managed to build SpurVMMaker image and it does run. I'll add a simple VM plugin soon to see that works.
On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 4:13 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org wrote:
Hi,
Just to refresh my skill on compiling the Squeak VM (I'd like to play with Kinect; I found some efforts like: http://tecnodacta.com.ar/gira/ but want to make a plugin that is suitable for my need.)
Let us say I'd like to compile a VM and my plugins on Mac, what are the right steps? (I had some experiences with VMMaker but that was before I need to specify Interpreter class name in the VMMakerTool, for example.
I added VMMaker repository in the Monticello browser, and opened it. As trying to just load VMMaker shows a warning of missing FFI constants, I turned to 'update' and load update-dtl.17.mcm. Is this a right thing to do?
But then, trying to load update-dtl.17.mcm onto the VM and image in the 5.0 all in one package, the VM crashes. Do you see this?
I'd like to get the files and image set up so that I can compile an external plugin, preferably for Cog/Spur. Some up to date guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Use a combination of...
Continuing it a bit by bit...
The shell script created SpurVMMaker image, and I am poking around it. But do people use the VMMakeTool to set up the interpreter name and output directory, etc.? I tried a few variations but things are not obvious.
I'm sticking with Mac OS 10.10 until I get a new model that is rumored; a bad news is that my Xcode lost the 10.10 SDK directory and it cannot produce a binary for 10.10; I could install the SDK etc. or perhaps I should update, but another interesting wrinkle there...
On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org wrote:
Thank you Timothy and Ben! I managed to build SpurVMMaker image and it does run. I'll add a simple VM plugin soon to see that works.
On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 4:13 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org wrote:
Hi,
Just to refresh my skill on compiling the Squeak VM (I'd like to play with Kinect; I found some efforts like: http://tecnodacta.com.ar/gira/ but want to make a plugin that is suitable for my need.)
Let us say I'd like to compile a VM and my plugins on Mac, what are the right steps? (I had some experiences with VMMaker but that was before I need to specify Interpreter class name in the VMMakerTool, for example.
I added VMMaker repository in the Monticello browser, and opened it. As trying to just load VMMaker shows a warning of missing FFI constants, I turned to 'update' and load update-dtl.17.mcm. Is this a right thing to do?
But then, trying to load update-dtl.17.mcm onto the VM and image in the 5.0 all in one package, the VM crashes. Do you see this?
I'd like to get the files and image set up so that I can compile an external plugin, preferably for Cog/Spur. Some up to date guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Use a combination of...
-- -- Yoshiki
A do it in the workspace:
VMMaker generateConfiguration
lets me generate the code for the VM (I'm getting there.)
What is the suggested way to add a simple external VM plugin, and keep regenerating the file for it during the debug process?
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org wrote:
Continuing it a bit by bit...
The shell script created SpurVMMaker image, and I am poking around it. But do people use the VMMakeTool to set up the interpreter name and output directory, etc.? I tried a few variations but things are not obvious.
I'm sticking with Mac OS 10.10 until I get a new model that is rumored; a bad news is that my Xcode lost the 10.10 SDK directory and it cannot produce a binary for 10.10; I could install the SDK etc. or perhaps I should update, but another interesting wrinkle there...
On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org wrote:
Thank you Timothy and Ben! I managed to build SpurVMMaker image and it does run. I'll add a simple VM plugin soon to see that works.
On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 4:13 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org wrote:
Hi,
Just to refresh my skill on compiling the Squeak VM (I'd like to play with Kinect; I found some efforts like: http://tecnodacta.com.ar/gira/ but want to make a plugin that is suitable for my need.)
Let us say I'd like to compile a VM and my plugins on Mac, what are the right steps? (I had some experiences with VMMaker but that was before I need to specify Interpreter class name in the VMMakerTool, for example.
I added VMMaker repository in the Monticello browser, and opened it. As trying to just load VMMaker shows a warning of missing FFI constants, I turned to 'update' and load update-dtl.17.mcm. Is this a right thing to do?
But then, trying to load update-dtl.17.mcm onto the VM and image in the 5.0 all in one package, the VM crashes. Do you see this?
I'd like to get the files and image set up so that I can compile an external plugin, preferably for Cog/Spur. Some up to date guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Use a combination of...
-- -- Yoshiki
-- -- Yoshiki
On 01-07-2016, at 4:22 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org wrote:
A do it in the workspace:
VMMaker generateConfiguration
lets me generate the code for the VM (I'm getting there.)
What is the suggested way to add a simple external VM plugin, and keep regenerating the file for it during the debug process?
There should be at least two Workspaces in your vmmaker image - one labelled ‘Overview’ and the other simply ‘Workspace’.
‘Overview’ has the basic #generateConfiguration etc stuff ready to run as well as (at the end) a useful snippet to generate a list of specific plugins for testing.
If you peek at VMMaker class>>generateSqueakCogVM for example you’ll see one of the simplest possible generate processes and the implementor will get you started on understanding the more complex ones. VMMaker class>>generatePlugins shows a way of generating the plugins (duh). I’m fairly sure a new plugin would need to end up in that list to become part of the normal build.
Given the amazing array of options to provide for it’s unsurprising there are a lot of methods involved. The VMMakerTool hasn’t really kept up with it from some time. Perhaps an interesting project for someone?
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: YVR: Branch to Vancouver
Thank you!
So my do it now looks for my "FooBazPlugin"
(VMMaker makerFor: CoInterpreter and: SimpleStackBasedCogit with: #() to: (FileDirectory default pathFromURI: '../src') platformDir: (FileDirectory default pathFromURI: '../platforms') including:#(FooBazPlugin)) generateExternalPlugins
and it generates the .c file. (It may need some more files to make it really compile, but we'll see that next...)
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 5:05 PM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 01-07-2016, at 4:22 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org wrote:
A do it in the workspace:
VMMaker generateConfiguration
lets me generate the code for the VM (I'm getting there.)
What is the suggested way to add a simple external VM plugin, and keep regenerating the file for it during the debug process?
There should be at least two Workspaces in your vmmaker image - one labelled ‘Overview’ and the other simply ‘Workspace’.
‘Overview’ has the basic #generateConfiguration etc stuff ready to run as well as (at the end) a useful snippet to generate a list of specific plugins for testing.
If you peek at VMMaker class>>generateSqueakCogVM for example you’ll see one of the simplest possible generate processes and the implementor will get you started on understanding the more complex ones. VMMaker class>>generatePlugins shows a way of generating the plugins (duh). I’m fairly sure a new plugin would need to end up in that list to become part of the normal build.
Given the amazing array of options to provide for it’s unsurprising there are a lot of methods involved. The VMMakerTool hasn’t really kept up with it from some time. Perhaps an interesting project for someone?
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: YVR: Branch to Vancouver
2016-07-02 0:02 GMT+02:00 Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org:
Continuing it a bit by bit...
The shell script created SpurVMMaker image, and I am poking around it. But do people use the VMMakeTool to set up the interpreter name and output directory, etc.? I tried a few variations but things are not obvious.
I'm sticking with Mac OS 10.10 until I get a new model that is rumored; a bad news is that my Xcode lost the 10.10 SDK directory and it cannot produce a binary for 10.10; I could install the SDK etc. or perhaps I should update, but another interesting wrinkle there...
If you want to install older <SDK and/or compiler versions, I highly recommend using https://github.com/devernay/xcodelegacy like mentionned here http://smallissimo.blogspot.fr/2015/08/compiling-cogspur-on-macosx-yosemite....
It works like a charm. Note that recent cocoa flavour build only on lion due to usage of new API...
Thanks. I was just hoping that by now Apple would have released a new MacBook Pro and I would not just have to worry about it...
On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.nice@gmail.com wrote:
2016-07-02 0:02 GMT+02:00 Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org:
Continuing it a bit by bit...
The shell script created SpurVMMaker image, and I am poking around it. But do people use the VMMakeTool to set up the interpreter name and output directory, etc.? I tried a few variations but things are not obvious.
I'm sticking with Mac OS 10.10 until I get a new model that is rumored; a bad news is that my Xcode lost the 10.10 SDK directory and it cannot produce a binary for 10.10; I could install the SDK etc. or perhaps I should update, but another interesting wrinkle there...
If you want to install older <SDK and/or compiler versions, I highly recommend using https://github.com/devernay/xcodelegacy like mentionned here http://smallissimo.blogspot.fr/2015/08/compiling-cogspur-on-macosx-yosemite....
It works like a charm. Note that recent cocoa flavour build only on lion due to usage of new API...
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