Hi.
Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub repository for VM and I can't. Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any results. At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
And another question. Is Travis build server public? Where to find it?
2016-06-21 11:05 GMT+02:00 Denis Kudriashov dionisiydk@gmail.com:
Hi.
Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub repository for VM and I can't. Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any results. At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
Sorry to reply with a stupid question but what is OpenSmalltalk ? First time I read about it.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:08 PM Denis Kudriashov dionisiydk@gmail.com wrote:
And another question. Is Travis build server public? Where to find it?
2016-06-21 11:05 GMT+02:00 Denis Kudriashov dionisiydk@gmail.com:
Hi.
Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub repository for VM and I can't. Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any results. At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
is the new repository for the vm
On 21 Jun 2016, at 11:31, Dimitris Chloupis kilon.alios@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry to reply with a stupid question but what is OpenSmalltalk ? First time I read about it.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:08 PM Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk@gmail.com mailto:dionisiydk@gmail.com> wrote:
And another question. Is Travis build server public? Where to find it?
2016-06-21 11:05 GMT+02:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk@gmail.com mailto:dionisiydk@gmail.com>: Hi.
Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub repository for VM and I can't. Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any results. At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 11:05 +0200, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
Hi.
Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub repository for VM and I can't. Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any results. At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
Searching for 'OpenSmalltalk' got me the GitHub repo as the 3rd result with Google. Since it's a new repo, perhaps it's still being added to the indexes and/or propagating out through their infrastructure and/or their algorithms are still deciding where it fits in the search results? GitHub can also take several days before new projects can be found via their search.
2016-06-21 11:35 GMT+02:00 Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com:
Searching for 'OpenSmalltalk' got me the GitHub repo as the 3rd result with Google. Since it's a new repo, perhaps it's still being added to the indexes and/or propagating out through their infrastructure and/or their algorithms are still deciding where it fits in the search results? GitHub can also take several days before new projects can be found via their search.
Ok. I just checked that there is no incident option "not searchable"
ah ok i see now, actually you will get empty results in the search because github searches for repo first
openSmalltalk is not the name of a repo its the name of the user so you have to click to user and it will it to you
so its both found by google and github
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:35 PM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 11:05 +0200, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
Hi.
Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub repository for VM and I can't. Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any results. At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
Searching for 'OpenSmalltalk' got me the GitHub repo as the 3rd result with Google. Since it's a new repo, perhaps it's still being added to the indexes and/or propagating out through their infrastructure and/or their algorithms are still deciding where it fits in the search results? GitHub can also take several days before new projects can be found via their search.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Dimitris Chloupis kilon.alios@gmail.com wrote:
ah ok i see now, actually you will get empty results in the search because github searches for repo first
openSmalltalk is not the name of a repo its the name of the user so you have to click to user and it will it to you
so its both found by google and github
Ahh. Thats quite an insight that I hadn't noticed before. Also the first 8 results searching github for "vm" are 8 different projects. One of the reasons for moving to github is get more visibility. I'm afraid like this that we'll be lost in the noise.
Actually when I made my fork of the repo, I'd noticed the project seemed to lose its identity as... https://github.com/bencoman/vm but I didn't worry to much about it since "I" knew what it was. But confusion in the public arena on github is more serious.
Since its still quite early days on github, can I ask consideration be given to renaming the repo so we have... https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm https://github.com/bencoman/opensmalltalk-vm That it will show up in both searches for "smalltalk" and "vm" I think this is important to getting the most long term value out git & github.
cheers -ben
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:35 PM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 11:05 +0200, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
Hi.
Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub repository for VM and I can't. Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any results. At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
Searching for 'OpenSmalltalk' got me the GitHub repo as the 3rd result with Google. Since it's a new repo, perhaps it's still being added to the indexes and/or propagating out through their infrastructure and/or their algorithms are still deciding where it fits in the search results? GitHub can also take several days before new projects can be found via their search.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Dimitris Chloupis kilon.alios@gmail.com wrote:
ah ok i see now, actually you will get empty results in the search because github searches for repo first
openSmalltalk is not the name of a repo its the name of the user so you have to click to user and it will it to you
so its both found by google and github
Ahh. Thats quite an insight that I hadn't noticed before. Also the first 8 results searching github for "vm" are 8 different projects. One of the reasons for moving to github is get more visibility. I'm afraid like this that we'll be lost in the noise.
Actually when I made my fork of the repo, I'd noticed the project seemed to lose its identity as... https://github.com/bencoman/vm but I didn't worry to much about it since "I" knew what it was. But confusion in the public arena on github is more serious.
Since its still quite early days on github, can I ask consideration be given to renaming the repo so we have... https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm https://github.com/bencoman/opensmalltalk-vm That it will show up in both searches for "smalltalk" and "vm" I think this is important to getting the most long term value out git & github.
Github help pages indicate existing infrastructure should continue to work to the old name, easing the transition. https://help.github.com/articles/renaming-a-repository/
For authorised users, this should link where the rename can be done.. https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/vm/settings
cheers -ben
cheers -ben
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:35 PM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 11:05 +0200, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
Hi.
Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub repository for VM and I can't. Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any results. At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
Searching for 'OpenSmalltalk' got me the GitHub repo as the 3rd result with Google. Since it's a new repo, perhaps it's still being added to the indexes and/or propagating out through their infrastructure and/or their algorithms are still deciding where it fits in the search results? GitHub can also take several days before new projects can be found via their search.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Dimitris Chloupis kilon.alios@gmail.com wrote:
ah ok i see now, actually you will get empty results in the search
because github searches for repo first
openSmalltalk is not the name of a repo its the name of the user so you
have to click to user and it will it to you
so its both found by google and github
Ahh. Thats quite an insight that I hadn't noticed before. Also the first 8 results searching github for "vm" are 8 different projects. One of the reasons for moving to github is get more visibility. I'm afraid like this that we'll be lost in the noise.
Actually when I made my fork of the repo, I'd noticed the project seemed to lose its identity as... https://github.com/bencoman/vm but I didn't worry to much about it since "I" knew what it was. But confusion in the public arena on github is more serious.
Since its still quite early days on github, can I ask consideration be given to renaming the repo so we have... https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm https://github.com/bencoman/opensmalltalk-vm That it will show up in both searches for "smalltalk" and "vm" I think this is important to getting the most long term value out git &
github.
If OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm is considered too unwieldly, some alternatives could be: * OpenSmalltalk/osvm (this has a single conflicting exact match on github [last updated 4 years ago], and a four substring matches) * OpenSmalltalk/ostvm (for which github return no results)
The reason I suggest this is the old real estate adage "location, location, location" has a corollary these days with internet search of "uniqueness, uniqueness, uniqueness". Then again, its only a small thing and there is plenty of other important things to do.
cheers -ben
Github help pages indicate existing infrastructure should continue to
work to the old name, easing the transition. https://help.github.com/articles/renaming-a-repository/
For authorised users, this should link where the rename can be done.. https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/vm/settings
cheers -ben
cheers -ben
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:35 PM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 11:05 +0200, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
Hi.
Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub repository for VM and I can't. Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any results. At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
Searching for 'OpenSmalltalk' got me the GitHub repo as the 3rd result with Google. Since it's a new repo, perhaps it's still being added to the indexes and/or propagating out through their infrastructure and/or their algorithms are still deciding where it fits in the search results? GitHub can also take several days before new projects can be found via their search.
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
Since its still quite early days on github, can I ask consideration be
given to renaming the repo so we have... https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm https://github.com/bencoman/opensmalltalk-vm
+1
If OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm is considered too unwieldly, some alternatives could be:
- OpenSmalltalk/osvm (this has a single conflicting exact match on github
[last updated 4 years ago], and a four substring matches)
- OpenSmalltalk/ostvm (for which github return no results)
IMHO opensmalltalk-vm is best after all.
- Bert -
On Jun 24, 2016, at 1:53 AM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
Since its still quite early days on github, can I ask consideration be given to renaming the repo so we have... https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm https://github.com/bencoman/opensmalltalk-vm
+1
If OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm is considered too unwieldly, some alternatives could be:
- OpenSmalltalk/osvm (this has a single conflicting exact match on github [last updated 4 years ago], and a four substring matches)
- OpenSmalltalk/ostvm (for which github return no results)
IMHO opensmalltalk-vm is best after all.
Whatever works. Should we call a vote? The sooner we resolve this the better.
- Bert -
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 24, 2016, at 1:53 AM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
Since its still quite early days on github, can I ask consideration be
given to renaming the repo so we have... https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm https://github.com/bencoman/opensmalltalk-vm
IMHO opensmalltalk-vm is best after all.
Whatever works. Should we call a vote? The sooner we resolve this the better.
It's been suggested, seconded, you're fine with it, so let's just do it, asap.
- Bert -
I agree it's a good day enough name , go for it On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 at 13:07, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 24, 2016, at 1:53 AM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
Since its still quite early days on github, can I ask consideration be
given to renaming the repo so we have... https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm https://github.com/bencoman/opensmalltalk-vm
IMHO opensmalltalk-vm is best after all.
Whatever works. Should we call a vote? The sooner we resolve this the better.
It's been suggested, seconded, you're fine with it, so let's just do it, asap.
- Bert -
Hi all,
We have just renamed the repository to "opensmalltalk-vm". Please update your local Git repositories with the following:
git remote set-url origin https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git
or if you are using ssh:
git remote set-url origin git@github.com:OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git
GitHub has a sophisticated redirection system and should be able to redirect all requests to the old repository automatically for the foreseeable future. We still recommend to update your clones as soon as possible.
Best, Fabio
On 29-06-2016, at 12:58 PM, Fabio Niephaus lists@fniephaus.com wrote:
Hi all,
We have just renamed the repository to "opensmalltalk-vm". Please update your local Git repositories with the following:
git remote set-url origin https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git
So for those of us attempting to make sense of this within the recommended ‘SourceTree’ I think this must be a) Repository Settings -> tab ‘remotes’ b) click on ‘origin’ ^ ‘Edit’ c) change https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/vm.git to https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git
Yes?
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: CBA: Compare if Biorhythms Amenable
Yes, sounds good! Thanks
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 at 22:24, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 29-06-2016, at 12:58 PM, Fabio Niephaus lists@fniephaus.com wrote:
Hi all,
We have just renamed the repository to "opensmalltalk-vm". Please update your local Git repositories with the following:
git remote set-url origin
https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git
So for those of us attempting to make sense of this within the recommended ‘SourceTree’ I think this must be a) Repository Settings -> tab ‘remotes’ b) click on ‘origin’ ^ ‘Edit’ c) change https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/vm.git to https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git
Yes?
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: CBA: Compare if Biorhythms Amenable
Github wont give you automagically visibility, there 2 criteria you have to satisfy
1) you have to contribute some code in smalltalk so it appears as smalltalk 2) you have to add a sensible description that mentions smalltalk in some way
The VM satisfies neither of those 2 criteria hence its not visible as Smalltalk but it is visible as C project.
By the way if you want find smalltalk projects , enter the words relevant to your search and then add
language:Smalltalk
this will force to Github to search projects that either contain Smalltalk source files or that mention in the description
you can also use the explore feature of github to see which Smalltalk projects are trending
https://github.com/trending/smalltalk
So as you can see yes the visibility is crystal clear for those that want to find Smalltalk projects.
Its easy, its simple and its fast.
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 1:47 PM Ben Coman btc@openinworld.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Dimitris Chloupis kilon.alios@gmail.com wrote:
ah ok i see now, actually you will get empty results in the search
because github searches for repo first
openSmalltalk is not the name of a repo its the name of the user so you
have to click to user and it will it to you
so its both found by google and github
Ahh. Thats quite an insight that I hadn't noticed before. Also the first 8 results searching github for "vm" are 8 different projects. One of the reasons for moving to github is get more visibility. I'm afraid like this that we'll be lost in the noise.
Actually when I made my fork of the repo, I'd noticed the project seemed to lose its identity as... https://github.com/bencoman/vm but I didn't worry to much about it since "I" knew what it was. But confusion in the public arena on github is more serious.
Since its still quite early days on github, can I ask consideration be given to renaming the repo so we have... https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm https://github.com/bencoman/opensmalltalk-vm That it will show up in both searches for "smalltalk" and "vm" I think this is important to getting the most long term value out git & github.
cheers -ben
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:35 PM Phil (list) pbpublist@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 11:05 +0200, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
Hi.
Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub repository for VM and I can't. Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any results. At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
Searching for 'OpenSmalltalk' got me the GitHub repo as the 3rd result with Google. Since it's a new repo, perhaps it's still being added to the indexes and/or propagating out through their infrastructure and/or their algorithms are still deciding where it fits in the search results? GitHub can also take several days before new projects can be found via their search.
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