Hi,
Currently, Squeak VM binaries files.squeak.org/6.0alpha come with the Image even though Image is available as a separate zip. The Image constitutes more than half the download size and is often useless because I update my image much more frequently than the VM binaries.
Is it possible to exclude the Image from the platform binaries to keep them slim?
Regards .. Subbu
Hi Subbu,
if you only want to update VMs, visit https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/cog [https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/cog%5D%C2%A0and pick a more recent one. If there is any new VM release (https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases [https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases]), which is also used in the bundles, you can find it here http://files.squeak.org/base/ [http://files.squeak.org/base/].
Well, I don't see any value in putting no-image "bundles" anywhere else on files.squeak.org.
Which platform are you using? Linux?
Best, Marcel Am 27.04.2020 11:18:15 schrieb K K Subbu kksubbu.ml@gmail.com:
Hi,
Currently, Squeak VM binaries files.squeak.org/6.0alpha come with the Image even though Image is available as a separate zip. The Image constitutes more than half the download size and is often useless because I update my image much more frequently than the VM binaries.
Is it possible to exclude the Image from the platform binaries to keep them slim?
Regards .. Subbu
On 27/04/20 2:57 pm, Marcel Taeumel wrote:
if you only want to update VMs, visit https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/cog%C2%A0and pick a more recent one. If there is any new VM release (https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases), which is also used in the bundles, you can find it here http://files.squeak.org/base/.
I was referring to release VMs used by people at large, not the test builds used by vm developers.
Well, I don't see any value in putting no-image "bundles" anywhere else on files.squeak.org
Image and VM have different build and patch cycles. VM binary is typically smaller than the Image.
But by putting them together, people will be forced to download both at the same time, even though their own Image may have been updated regularly and contain their personal preferences and changes.
Fat downloads increase download time and the wear and tear on flash drives.
Which platform are you using? Linux?
Yes.
Regards .. Subbu
Hi Subbu.
I was referring to release VMs used by people at large, not the test
builds used by vm developers.
Hmm... then why isn't the download on GitHub sufficient? What do you want du bundle with it? https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases [https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases]
Image and VM have different build and patch cycles. VM binary is typically smaller than the Image.
Hmm... there are no bundles that use bleeding edge VMs at the moment on files.squeak.org/60alpha. New daily bundles are likely to not change the VM but always the image.
Sorry, if I still don't understand your concern. :-/ On https://squeak.org/downloads/ [https://squeak.org/downloads/], there is a link to the latest stable VMs.
Best, Marcel Am 27.04.2020 15:10:57 schrieb K K Subbu kksubbu.ml@gmail.com:
On 27/04/20 2:57 pm, Marcel Taeumel wrote:
if you only want to update VMs, visit https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/cog%C2%A0and pick a more recent one. If there is any new VM release (https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases), which is also used in the bundles, you can find it here http://files.squeak.org/base/.
I was referring to release VMs used by people at large, not the test builds used by vm developers.
Well, I don't see any value in putting no-image "bundles" anywhere else on files.squeak.org
Image and VM have different build and patch cycles. VM binary is typically smaller than the Image.
But by putting them together, people will be forced to download both at the same time, even though their own Image may have been updated regularly and contain their personal preferences and changes.
Fat downloads increase download time and the wear and tear on flash drives.
Which platform are you using? Linux?
Yes.
Regards .. Subbu
On 27/04/20 2:57 pm, Marcel Taeumel wrote:
If there is any new VM release (https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases), which is also used in the bundles, you can find it here http://files.squeak.org/base/.
I didn't know about this directory :-(. It is easier than scraping bintray or github. It would be nice to have a README in the release pointing to this base directory.
The pathnames for Linux are different from the corresponding zip in the release directory. Is there another install/packaging step?
Regards .. Subbu
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