I just installed Pharo & Squeak and my first impression is rather bad. Nothing screams ancient / unmaintained / not production ready / shitty like no support for retina displays. It has been 6 years since retina displays were released and they should really be supported by now.
This has been listed on https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-workingRoadmaps/blob/master/Pharo7/RO... for quite a few years, but apparently nothing has happened yet. From a user standpoint, this should be of really high priority in my opinion.
Sorry for popping up here and criticising. Just wanted to provide my experience.
@estebanlm Is this something that might be helped using minheadless for Pharo 8 ?
I understand your frustration, @ad-si. Squeak has a high-res/demo mode that somewhat works on Windows when auto-upscaling is disabled. But none of the release VMs support it officially. There's a branch for adding high-res support, but development has stalled at some point unfortunately. Maybe @krono can provide a quick status update? The Pharo community is currently working on Bloc which is supposed to provide high-res graphics I think.
Putting my money where my mouth is: I'm adding a 50€ bounty if it get's implemented until end of May for MacOS 😁
[Squeak64_201706232142-highdpi-v2.app.zip](https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/files/2999560/Squeak64_201...)
You can drop by my office if you want to…
<img width="664" alt="Screen Shot 2019-03-23 at 16 40 55Z" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/36796532/54868994-88f39080-4d8a-11e9-9ddc-e0104c6f7fc3.png"> Well … if now the device and app pixels would have a more favorable ratio 😉. … but the point isn't about getting it running for me, but to get it into the stable release. I'd really like to be able to direct other developers to Squeak as an example of how software development / IDEs should be done, but at the moment it's rather embarrassing.
What's the progress on this?
@ad-si: I think all you need to do now is to enable high-dpi mode (via World Menu > `appearance` > `system fonts` > `demo/hi-dpi mode`).
On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 at 00:45, Adrian Sieber notifications@github.com wrote:
but the point isn't about getting it running for me, but to get it into the stable release.
Hi Adrian,
I hope someone takes you up on the challenge - not just for the money, but because you stand you're taking for the community.
cheers -ben
Closed #378.
@fniephaus @krono Ah cool, kind of works! I mean the graphics should be changed as well and not just the fonts, but this makes it already way better. So what's stopping you from merging it upstreams?
Reopened #378.
Because I have alreay invested more than a month's time and it turns out, getting it right is actually hard. You only saw a third of the things necessary to make it work right.
Think cross-platform, think multi-monitor, think changing tech (osx uses metal now).
Its not doable atm.
Closed #378.
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