Webteam April 2008

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Re: [Webteam] Re: [squeak-dev] Question for: 3dot10 Release Team
by Brad Fuller 10 Apr '08

10 Apr '08

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Edgar J. De Cleene <edgardec2001(a)yahoo.com.ar> wrote: > > > > El 4/9/08 6:13 PM, "Brad Fuller" <bradallenfuller(a)gmail.com> escribió: > > > > > Exactly! > Those of us who have access to the boxes can probably do this. I > > just > need to know what the decision on how to package each > > distribution. > Hmmm... I guess that really brings up a question: Who is > > responsible > for creating the distribution dirs or files for each > > platform? > Webteam? Release Team. I would think it would be the release team > > Ok, I try to made the same as 3.9 with the last VM this week end. > So this end (hope). > > I see we have some Experiments/ directory, could I have access to put here > things I wish others in building images could find and test easily ? > I have my own ftp://elpelotero:elpelotero@200.127.5.95/ > (on approximate 09:00 to 20:00 GMT, dig and take what you like, at your > own risk), but cable modem here is not so reliable and ip could change. Ken or someone who has root access on the box will have to do that for you. Ken?

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Re: [squeak-dev] Question for: 3dot10 Release Team
by Edgar J. De Cleene 09 Apr '08

09 Apr '08

El 4/8/08 4:44 PM, "Brad Fuller" <bradallenfuller(a)gmail.com> escribió: > Hello, > > At: > http://ftp.squeak.org/3.10/ > > is a zip file that has only > Squeak3dot10.7159.changes > Squeak3dot10.7159.image > > While the 3.9 directory has subdirs for win, max, linux. > > We're updating the website for pointers to the new 3.10 release and > need to know if there will be packages for major platforms as before. > Or is the 3.10 release beginning a new way to deploy Squeak (e.g. the > user obtains a VM for their platform)? > > > Please email me offline and copy webteam(a)squeak.org with your answers. > > Thanks! I not a Unix expert. How I could create links to 3.9 files ? VM was changing a lot. I have old Mac PPC, don't know last John was for newer Mac Intel. For Windows, Andreas was working and I could test for 3.10 SqueakVM-Win32-3.10.4-bin.zip, but he could have a newer. My view is we should pack all as Sophie and Seaside, but again I tell I ask how put the needed files into the Mac VM (the others see this as directory) and no answers. By the way, I have permissions to create directories into the fpt ?

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[ANN] New FunSqueak 6
by Edgar J. De Cleene 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

I put a new FunSqueak3.10alpha.6.image. To list of previous packages, I add VMmaker and SystemTracer2. For loading VMmaker , I first must load Speech-Klatt.st. Was last versions for 3.8, so take easy until owners update his packages. I remember FunSqueak 5 have RoelTyper,eCompletion,Scheduler,Seaside,Pier,Magritte. Server is running To web team , please update the info and links. http://ftp.squeak.org/various_images/FunSqueak/FunSqueak3.10alpha.6.zip Enjoy and send feedback Edgar

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Re: [Fwd: [Webteam] Update the site page, please...]
by Jason Rogers 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

Well I tried updating this but my company has blocked the ports necessary. We can't FTP or SSH out of the company. Also, I can't do this from home until I get a machine up and running (and then I might be in the same predicament as Brad). So, I am no help. On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Brad Fuller <bradallenfuller(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > What do you think, shall we upgrade or should we better ask the Board for a > > final yes? > > As I replied before, I think we should update. I asked someone else to > perform the needed stuff on the ftp site that Edgar asked us to do > because I'm on another machine now (my keys may not work for ssh - if > I can find them.) If that's done, then we need to just update the > website page accordingly for 3.10 release - both on the download page > (there are many places to update) and on the upper right box. > Right now the Windows link on the download page is pointing to 3.10.6. > Don't know what that means. The others look old. > > There has been a lot of talk on squeak-dev about the 3.10 release, > does that effect this? > > For Edgar's FunSqueak, I think he needed to move a file and delete the > current one that the page is pointing to. > > > > > > > Best regards > > Janko > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [Webteam] Update the site page, please... > > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 07:47:59 -0300 > > From: Edgar J. De Cleene <edgardec2001(a)yahoo.com.ar> > > To: webteam(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > <webteam(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>, The general-purpose Squeak > > developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > > > > I end the 3.10 release and send notice about FunSqueak.6 before. > > Please, please, please, update the www.squeak.org pages. > > > > Also I wish put my 3.11 proposal image somewhere, is a shame we loose six > > months now without any change. > > > > Edgar > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Webteam mailing list > > Webteam(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam > > > > > > -- > > Janko Mivšek > > Svetovalec za informatiko > > Eranova d.o.o. > > Ljubljana, Slovenija > > www.eranova.si > > tel: 01 514 22 55 > > faks: 01 514 22 56 > > gsm: 031 674 565 > > > > > > -- > Brad Fuller > www.bradfuller.com > -- Jason Rogers "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20

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Update the site page, please...
by Edgar J. De Cleene 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

I end the 3.10 release and send notice about FunSqueak.6 before. Please, please, please, update the www.squeak.org pages. Also I wish put my 3.11 proposal image somewhere, is a shame we loose six months now without any change. Edgar

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Removing unneeded files of 3.10
by Edgar J. De Cleene 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

To Ken request, I remove all intermediate files of 3.10 release. I still have the .zips, just in case some need it. Edgar

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Re: [squeak-dev] Pier demo of squeak.org ready
by Matthew Fulmer 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 06:58:53AM +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > 2008/4/3, Matthew Fulmer <tapplek(a)gmail.com>: > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:17:35AM +0100, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > > > I prepared a quick demo of the Squeak web site using Pier. My thanks > > > go to Danie and Karl, that provided me with the old image to migrate > > > the content. I did not adapt the CSS or the components of the page > > > yet, what you see is as Pier comes after the installation. As I > > > mentioned there are dozens of plugins ready that can be placed at any > > > part of the web-site: > > > > > > http://squeak.lukas-renggli.ch > > > > > > The password for an admin users with (almost all privileges) is: > > > > > > demo/demo > > > > > > I can't figure out how to use this one either. I would like to > > make an itemized tutorial list where anyone can post a tutorial, > > tag it, review it, rate it, or show all tutorials on one > > subject. I did this by making a blog, and adding three posts to > > it: > > http://squeak.lukas-renggli.ch/Documentation/Tutorials > > > > However, none of the posts are showing up there, and it does not > > seem like the title of the post can be made into a link to the > > tutorial, which makes for a pretty bad tutorial list. > > > > What I would like is something like reddit, where one can post > > tutorials, rate them, and be able to see which ones are most > > recommended for a given subject. I have a big list to start from > > at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/SqueakTutorials > > On http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/SqueakTutorials click 'Add', then > select Post as a type. Don't forget to set the publication date. OK. Setting the publication date of my entries solved the problem. That seems like a big bug that entries don't show up until you set a publication date. A few issues I have using the site: - I kept getting logged out, and having to re-enter the password whenever I used the navigation features "Browse" or "Link" - I couldn't find a way to get back to the tutorial list from an individual post. A post seems like a dead-end, link-wise. Pier used to have some kind of navigation tree on the left side. Where did that go? - I don't see a way to list post-titles only, or make the post title be a link to the tutorial. I guess Blog is the wrong abstraction for what I want to accomplish, although it is close. I guess more of what I want is a ratable, tag-gable, comment-able, searchable bookmark list, sorted by popularity, and grouped by tags -- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/

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Re: [squeak-dev] Demo of squeak.org on Aida/Scribo ready
by Janko Mivšek 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

Dear Squeakers, Demo of new squeak.org on http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000 has now also more public editing rights. Just login as: demo/demo ...and you should have Edit link up-right or edit icon below central text. Clicking on it should open a WYSIWYG editor of content. If you'll got a message "Please wait, page is currently locked by user: Demo user", then someone else is just editing that page. Wait for message: "Page is now released and ready to edit" or go back and select other page and try editing it.. Also, editing on IE6 is not supported yet, while IE7 is. Try also uploading some image in below box, then simply drag it into the text and resize it by dragging borders. Simply isn't it? That's it, I think you can now see how easy is to maintain Scribo based website and therefore I think it will also be easy to delegate some maintenance duties to broader public. Of course there are still other things to finish like RSS reader etc etc, soon, a day or two... I hope that now you are convinced that with Aida/Scribo and vibrant community behind which is able to deliver, a Squeak website would be in safe hands and that you'll accept my offer. Best regards Janko Janko Mivšek wrote: > Dear Squeakers, > > As promised I prepared a demo of current Squeak website migrated to > Aida/Scribo CMS. I migrated both design and first level of content to > show, how flexible is Scribo in dealing with both different design and > things like Url format in case of SmallWiki. You can see demo here: > > http://squeaksite.aidaweb.si:9000 > > Demo is actually pretty complete, what is still missing is a dynamic > tree menu on the left (currently is static) and some other minor > things. In any case with this demo I convinced even myself that moving > Squeak website is definitively possible and it will open further > improvements on content, spreading authoring to more people, adding more > dynamic content, etc etc. > > I hope that you are now a bit more convinced that two days ago...:) > > Best regards > Janko > > -- Janko Mivšek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

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Demo Tutorial List
by Matthew Fulmer 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 06:58:53AM +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > > I can't figure out how to use this one either. I would like to > > make an itemized tutorial list where anyone can post a tutorial, > > tag it, review it, rate it, or show all tutorials on one > > subject. I did this by making a blog, and adding three posts to > > it: > > http://squeak.lukas-renggli.ch/Documentation/Tutorials > > > > However, none of the posts are showing up there, and it does not > > seem like the title of the post can be made into a link to the > > tutorial, which makes for a pretty bad tutorial list. > > > > What I would like is something like reddit, where one can post > > tutorials, rate them, and be able to see which ones are most > > recommended for a given subject. I have a big list to start from > > at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/SqueakTutorials > > On http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/SqueakTutorials click 'Add', then > select Post as a type. Don't forget to set the publication date. That's what I did, but I didn't set the publication date, as I didn't feel like digging out the publication date of the tutorials. But now the site is back to encoding issues. -- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/

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Re: [squeak-dev] Pier demo of squeak.org ready
by Matthew Fulmer 03 Apr '08

03 Apr '08

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:17:35AM +0100, Lukas Renggli wrote: > I prepared a quick demo of the Squeak web site using Pier. My thanks > go to Danie and Karl, that provided me with the old image to migrate > the content. I did not adapt the CSS or the components of the page > yet, what you see is as Pier comes after the installation. As I > mentioned there are dozens of plugins ready that can be placed at any > part of the web-site: > > http://squeak.lukas-renggli.ch > > The password for an admin users with (almost all privileges) is: > > demo/demo I can't figure out how to use this one either. I would like to make an itemized tutorial list where anyone can post a tutorial, tag it, review it, rate it, or show all tutorials on one subject. I did this by making a blog, and adding three posts to it: http://squeak.lukas-renggli.ch/Documentation/Tutorials However, none of the posts are showing up there, and it does not seem like the title of the post can be made into a link to the tutorial, which makes for a pretty bad tutorial list. What I would like is something like reddit, where one can post tutorials, rate them, and be able to see which ones are most recommended for a given subject. I have a big list to start from at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/SqueakTutorials I have been unable to see how to do this in either pier or scribo. -- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/

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