seaside-dev January 2008

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Seaside-Sprint / Camp-Seaside
by Philippe Marschall 27 Jan '08

27 Jan '08

Hi As you might know Lukas and I kinda had a private Seaside session for one day [1]. Personally I found it very successful, it had two problems though. First it was only one day, second it was just Lukas and me. Sure we have this mailing list and there's ESUG and other conferences where we can meet. However this list has not worked the way I hoped it would for discussions beyond simple commits. And at conferences times to work dedicated only on Seaside with other people is limited. In Open Source projects there is this thing called sprint [2] which I think would be very useful for Seaside. So my question is who would be interested in taking part in such an event? [1] http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/blog/seaside29-kickoff [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackathon#Sprints Cheers Philippe

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Seaside-Core-rew.43
by Philippe Marschall 26 Jan '08

26 Jan '08

Looks ok to me. Cheers Philippe

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Seaside-Core-rew.40
by Philippe Marschall 26 Jan '08

26 Jan '08

Thanks. The by now expected high quality of comments. The WANavigationBar comment is a bit strange but that might well be a different flavor of humor. Merged Thanks Philippe

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Resizer: Scriptaculous-Core-obi.10.mcz
by Lukas Renggli 26 Jan '08

26 Jan '08

Gerhard, the resizer with the demo you committed with Scriptaculous-Core-obi.10.mcz is really cool. I see a packaging problem though. One of the goals of Seaside 2.9 is to clean up the whole package structure. Adding an external JavaScript library adds a nasty dependency and makes it difficult to update the core functionality when a new version of script.aculou.us is out. In my opinion, Scriptaculous-Core should only contain script.aculo.us. There is a big number of small Seaside and Scriptaculous extensions in different SqueakSource repositories. For example have a look at this one containing an excellent collection of widgets and tools: http://www.squeaksource.com/seachart.html Probably it would be worth to create a special addons-repository for Seaside 2.9 where things like this resizer-tool could be put? Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

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SUTreeReport
by Gerhard Obermann 13 Jan '08

13 Jan '08

Hi! Latest SUTreeReport for Seaside 2.9 (SU_COmponents-lr.6) does not work well with all browsers. My test results: IE7 - line breaks if you test with a minimum width of the browser window Opera 9.25 - line breaks after startup Firefox - overlapping text if you test with a minimum width Safari - Works fine I tried differnet solutions to avoid these problems. But i think the only solution is to always use a tableData for each div or anchor. PS: All browser passes successfully my tests with SU-Components-obi.5.mcz Cheers Gerhard

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Re: seaside-dev Digest, Vol 5, Issue 3
by Gerhard Obermann 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

Hi! I was not able to load Seaside-Squeak-Kom-Full-lr.2 MCM from the repository. Always getting an exception because loadVersionInfo is not implemented in the MCMcmReader class. cheers Gerhard 2008/1/9, seaside-dev-request(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org < seaside-dev-request(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>: > > Send seaside-dev mailing list submissions to > seaside-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/seaside-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > seaside-dev-request(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > seaside-dev-owner(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of seaside-dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Loading Seaside 2.9 (Gerhard Obermann) > 2. Re: Loading Seaside 2.9 (Philippe Marschall) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 23:49:59 +0100 > From: "Gerhard Obermann" <obi068(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Seaside-dev] Loading Seaside 2.9 > To: seaside-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Message-ID: > <7b7d752d0801081449j36ec89edhcf0eebe56af8f78e(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi! > > Is it currently possible to load Seaside 2.9 from scratch > e.g. starting with a Squeak 3.9 developer image? > > > br > > Gerhard >

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Loading Seaside 2.9
by Gerhard Obermann 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

Hi! Is it currently possible to load Seaside 2.9 from scratch e.g. starting with a Squeak 3.9 developer image? br Gerhard

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Seaside 2.9 status report
by Philippe Marschall 04 Jan '08

04 Jan '08

Hi Yesterday I was sitting together with Lukas to work on Seaside 2.9. One of the more important results is that made progress on the module naming conventions. The modules are named like this: Module-Package Module-Platform-Package Common modules are: Module-Core: The main implementation classes Module-Tests: Tests Module-Examples: Examples Module-Squeak-Core: Squeak specific code, in general needed to make Module-Core work Eg. Scripaculous-Core Scripaculous-Tests Scripaculous-Examples Scripaculous-Squeak-Core Packages that do not have -Platform- in them are supposed to be portable without any change. No more need to filter class categories or class extensions with -Platform for -Squeak and injecting your own code. This means once you implemented Module-YourPlatform-Core updating to the latest Seaside version should only be loading Module-Core. We hope this will not only make ports easier but also make their maintenance less resource intensive and result in more up to date ports. If you look at the repository is currently not yet fully done, we'll fix this. During this process we moved Continuation to the Squeak implementation package because only one platform (Cincom Smallalk) has the same implementation, the others (Dolphin and Gemstone) have a different one. And we removed Amb since nobody ever used it. We also made good progress on supporting multibyte characters on the Squeak/Kom streaming server adapter and Comet. Finally we're looking into having a simple email class that provides a minimal abstraction so you don't have to concatenate Strings php-style. We know that to a certain extent this will duplicate what is already present on certain platform. We can't use the Squeak code because of the license. This is likely to be a separate module. So the question is whether someone is willing to donate code under MIT. If not we'll do something simple that probably won't support multipart messages and attachments. Cheers Philippe

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HTTP 1.1 and keep-alive
by Philippe Marschall 01 Jan '08

01 Jan '08

Hi At least on Squeak/Kom Seaside has been running HTTP 1.0 without keep-alive for quite some time. This is quite uncool because most "pages" consist of two requests, the first will answer a redirect. On HTTP 1.0 without keep-alive this means two TCP connections will have to be created. This is not a big issue on localhost but over the internet this quite uncool. In the last few weeks I've been running Swazoo 2.1 beta on HTTP 1.1 with keep-alive without problems so far. I only changed: WARespnse class >> #defaultHttpVersion So my questions is what are other people's experience with HTTP 1.1 and keep-alive on other platforms and servers? Cheers Philippe

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