I'm not personally familiar with packaging for Ubuntu, but it seems from the discussion that we have two gaps to resolve:
1) Providing a VM plus plugins that works for Squeak and eToys on the necessary Linux distributions (Ubuntu + ?).
2) A person to coordinate work and to ensure that the various squeak-vm packages are updated in a timely and correct manner.
I'm guessing that #1 can be (perhaps already is?) handled through Ian's normal packaging and distribution, although I don't know if Ian has convenient access to the necessary machines (for example, if producing a VM for Ubuntu involves setting up a new Ubuntu box on the dining room table, then some help may be in order).
For #2, Jerome is right. We need a volunteer to serve as Linux distribution coordinator, to make sure that issues are resolved, timing is met, and squeak-vm packages are produced correctly. It makes good sense for this to be a defined role for one person on the VM team. Having said that, I don't know who that person might be, so I can only repeat Jerome's question: Do we have a volunteer?
Dave
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:08:04AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Hi VM-Team, Dave,
what's your take in this? We somehow need to establish permanent contact with the maintainers of the "squeak-vm" package in various Linux distributions. They operate pretty much autonomously until now ...
Even if we get a fix into svn and Ian did a new release, there is no established procedure to make sure all the packages get updates.
- Bert -
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From: Jerome Peace peace_the_dreamer@yahoo.com Date: 12. April 2009 23:10:31 MESZ To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Squeak soundless on Ubuntu. Who will fix it? Hi Chris, Reply-To: peace_the_dreamer@yahoo.com, The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Hi Chris, Thank you for your thoughts.
My question is "Who will fix it."
The what will be fixed. And the how it will be fixed. Are close to being known. Sound works in etoys.
What I am asking is WHO in our community will take on the task of making the distribution that Ubuntu gets work with sound.
Or who in our community will provide the financial resources to commission it done.
Without someone with the will to make a good distribution we will have this problem forever.
Bert says he can help with his knowledge and expertise, but cannot be point man on the issue. So the rest of the community needs to come up with a point man.
This problem is blocking not only squeak developers but also the scratch community.
So Community. Who will fix it?
Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace