Webteam January 2007

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Re: [Webteam] Re: Main page colors
by Ken G. Brown 13 Jan '07

13 Jan '07

Next shrunk version of the latest. Are these helpful to you? Headers are exactly the same color of dark blue as the left top pane. Ken

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Re: [Webteam] Need Comments and Final Approval
by Brad Fuller 12 Jan '07

12 Jan '07

Alex Perez wrote: > > On Jan 12, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Brad Fuller wrote: > >> Ken G. Brown wrote: >>> Good work. >>> Looking at <http://wwwtest.squeak.org>... >>> >>> - There appears to be an extra blank line just below the title Take >>> Part in the Innovation. >>> >> Hmm... I believe that's on purpose because it's too tight to the >> header at the top, otherwise. > > One should *never* use text to format pages. Beat this old habit out > of yourself. Use CSS, and simply define a margin or padding. You can > do this inside any HTML element in a one-off fashion without a > standalone stylesheet by simply adding ' style="margin-bottom: 10px;" > ' (or padding-bottom, -top, etc.) anywhere you please. Text wasn't used to format the page. It's not an extra line, it seems to be an artifact of using the smallwiki's table function. I think the result looks good, actually. Sets off the points we want to make. >>> - A day or so back the test site had matching light yellow >>> background for the center pane with the main text. >> >> Do you mean like the bg color of the boxes? > > once again, set these with CSS. Use the background-color property. I'm only asking what color he liked. All the formatting, colors, etc., was done with CSS. >> >>> I thought it was kind of effective. I also like the green coloring >>> of the Downloads pane as in <http://www.squeak.org> now. Perhaps the >>> background colors could be different for each type of pane? >>> >> >> Karl likes the old colors. Do you like ALL the old colors? > > It would seem so :) At least, I do. That's 2. > >> >>> - I like the Weekly Squeak location for news. I'm wondering if >>> 'Weekly Squeak' is explanation enough or does it need the word >>> 'News' there somehow? >>> >> >> All that text is from an automatic feed. >> >>> - What does the small 'View' link at the upper right mean? Is it >>> necessary? >>> >> >> This is a wiki. You should see: View | Changes | Search. If one logs >> in, they have more options at that location (like, edit, history). > > It's a wiki, but it's a website contained in a wiki, basically using > the wiki as a content management system. Normal visitors will not want > to be making changes. I would personally place the links at the bottom > of the page, since this is unnecessary for 99% of *visitors*. Your > site should be most convenient for visitors, not for the web > editors/developers :) Yeah, I guess we could put them at the bottom or out of the way somewhere. Note that this isn't new - it has always been this way)

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Re: [Webteam] Need Comments and Final Approval
by Ken G. Brown 12 Jan '07

12 Jan '07

Good work. Looking at <http://wwwtest.squeak.org>... - There appears to be an extra blank line just below the title Take Part in the Innovation. - A day or so back the test site had matching light yellow background for the center pane with the main text. I thought it was kind of effective. I also like the green coloring of the Downloads pane as in <http://www.squeak.org> now. Perhaps the background colors could be different for each type of pane? - I like the Weekly Squeak location for news. I'm wondering if 'Weekly Squeak' is explanation enough or does it need the word 'News' there somehow? - What does the small 'View' link at the upper right mean? Is it necessary? - I like the header/logo/image across the top. Good to keep the header small vertically to avoid using up too much screen real estate since it is always displayed. - I do not think the small 'Squeak' link at upper left under the logo is necessary since the one below it in the pane appears to be the same. - Perhaps Login should be there with View|Changes|Search? - Could the View|Changes|Search|Login links have a short explanation when you click on them? ie Login to what? Why would you want to? How do you register to Login? - In Extraordinary Squeak, there seems to be inconsistency in display of eToys. Which is correct? etoys, Etoys, eToys? - Perhaps a (OLPC) could be added just after 'One Laptop Per Child'. - Most available links highlight/underline when mouse hovering to show they are links, the ones in Weekly Squeak do not. However they display the text preview which is mostly already there. Perhaps the titles here could hover-highlight to show they are links, and the text itself could do a longer text preview when hovering. Overall it looks like steady improvement. Thx for your efforts. Ken G. Brown >Message: 1 >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:42:44 -0800 >From: Brad Fuller <brad(a)sonaural.com> >Subject: [Webteam] Need Comments and Final Approval >To: webteam(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >Message-ID: <45A6E794.1000502(a)sonaural.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Please check out the test site. I've added items that people commented >about. I've also reformatted a bit. >The front page text has changed, but no other text has changed. The text >that is missing is the "About" text on the front page and the links have >been put over to the right. We can integrate the "About" text into the >"About" page at any time. > >What do you think? > >-- >brad fuller > http://www.Sonaural.com/ > +1 (408) 799-6124

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Suggestion for Squeak Website
by Francis Wilson 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

There is a typo on the page with the url: http://www.squeak.org/Download/SqueakDVD/ You have: You can give to the Squeak Project by bying the (identical) "silver" edition but the word is spelled "buying" Some educators would be unimpressed with this sloppiness. /Francis Wilson

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Front Page
by Brad Fuller 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

What do you guys think about rearranging the front page to be a bit more sparse? Less text with "About Smalltalk" more about the cool applications that are happening. Specifically today, seaside and olpc are have enthusiasm around the world and maybe we could take advantage of that ride to promote Squeak on the first page. I like the next steps area (although it might be too long) The "Main Squeak Portals" seems redundant because they are on the right side. We could use the explanation text as the mouse hover text on the right so we don't lose the descriptions of the portals. Just a thought. -- brad fuller http://www.Sonaural.com/ +1 (408) 799-6124

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Remove link to old list site
by Bert Freudenberg 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

Hi folks, at http://squeak.org/Community/ and possibly elsewhere there are still links to http://discuss.squeakfoundation.org/ which is now dead. Those should be removed. Thanks! - Bert -

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Recent discussion on squeak-dev
by Brad Fuller 07 Jan '07

07 Jan '07

Anyone have any additional comments about Stef's "Could we fix the web site" email? -- brad fuller http://www.Sonaural.com/ +1 (408) 799-6124

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RE: [Seaside] Pre-Configured Squeak with Seaside
by Ron Teitelbaum 02 Jan '07

02 Jan '07

Rick, Could you figure out what versions they are and send them to Brad. I'm sure he can add them into the description. Ron > -----Original Message----- > From: seaside-bounces(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:seaside- > bounces(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Rick Zaccone > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:47 AM > To: The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general discussion. > Subject: Re: [Seaside] Pre-Configured Squeak with Seaside > > > >> On the Squeak download page <http://squeak.org/Download> there is a > >> link to a pre-configured Squeak image with Seaside, Magma, and Pier > >> <http://ftp.squeak.org/various_images/Seaside-Magma-Pier/>. There's > >> no mention of which version of Seaside this is. Does anyone know? > >> This should be listed on the page. > > > > Going to World > Open > Monticello Browser should show you all the > > installed packages, including the version of Seaside. > > > > Lukas > > Thanks, but my point (in part) was that it shouldn't be necessary to > download the image to find out which version of Seaside it contains. > The download web page should contain more information about the > versions of Seaside, Magma and Pier that you will get by clicking on > the link. > > Rick > > _______________________________________________ > Seaside mailing list > Seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside

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