je pense que cela peut interesser les gens qui s'interessent aux interfaces utilisateurs... an old page on tweak at http://www.impara.de/tweak/tcar
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Andreas Raab" andreas.raab@gmx.de Date: 29 novembre 2004 16:59:07 GMT+01:00 To: tweak@impara.de Subject: Re: [Tweak] Progress on running "Tweak-only" Reply-To: tweak@impara.de
This should have been:
http://www.impara.de/~andreas/Tweak/TweakOnly.zip
Cheers,
- Andreas
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Raab" andreas.raab@gmx.de To: tweak@impara.de Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:54 PM Subject: [Tweak] Progress on running "Tweak-only"
Folks,
As you are probably aware one of the major goals of Tweak is to replace both Morphic and MVC. Last week I've made some major progress in this regard by actually ripping out both Morphic and MVC (and more
- see below) with only Tweak running as the UI system. For those of
you who are interested in this, here is a shorthand version of the process:
- Update your Tweak to the very latest
- Execute "CWorldPlayer run" to run Tweak in fullscreen, exclusive
mode.
- Open a Transcript (from the tools) so that you see some progress
- Open a workspace and execute "CWorldPlayer zapAllButTweak"
- When the process is complete save your image under a new name
("save image" is now accessible in the world menu)
Be advised that the zapping process right now is overly agressive - it kills many things that you may want to preserve, including facilities like socket support (e.g., you cannot run updates from the resulting image) and many, many more. This needs a lot of tweaking to be usable but it might be an interesting starting point for further work on packagizing various parts of the system. I've put the resulting image up at http://www.impara.de/~andreas/tweak/TweakOnly.zip (~4.5MB image file; ~2.7MB zip w/ changes file).
Cheers,
- Andreas
Tweak mailing list Tweak@impara.de http://impara.de/mailman/listinfo/tweak
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Stéphane,
Est-ce dire qu'il est déconseillé de développer avec Morph et qu'il est plus sage d'attendre TWEAK ?
J'ai essayé une image toute prête contenant TWEAK. Cela semble plus rapide, sinon pour le reste aucun idée.
Hilaire
Le mar 30/11/2004 à 16:13, stéphane ducasse a écrit :
je pense que cela peut interesser les gens qui s'interessent aux interfaces utilisateurs... an old page on tweak at http://www.impara.de/tweak/tcar
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Andreas Raab" andreas.raab@gmx.de Date: 29 novembre 2004 16:59:07 GMT+01:00 To: tweak@impara.de Subject: Re: [Tweak] Progress on running "Tweak-only" Reply-To: tweak@impara.de
This should have been:
http://www.impara.de/~andreas/Tweak/TweakOnly.zip
Cheers,
- Andreas
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Raab" andreas.raab@gmx.de To: tweak@impara.de Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:54 PM Subject: [Tweak] Progress on running "Tweak-only"
Folks,
As you are probably aware one of the major goals of Tweak is to replace both Morphic and MVC. Last week I've made some major progress in this regard by actually ripping out both Morphic and MVC (and more
- see below) with only Tweak running as the UI system. For those of
you who are interested in this, here is a shorthand version of the process:
- Update your Tweak to the very latest
- Execute "CWorldPlayer run" to run Tweak in fullscreen, exclusive
mode.
- Open a Transcript (from the tools) so that you see some progress
- Open a workspace and execute "CWorldPlayer zapAllButTweak"
- When the process is complete save your image under a new name
("save image" is now accessible in the world menu)
Be advised that the zapping process right now is overly agressive - it kills many things that you may want to preserve, including facilities like socket support (e.g., you cannot run updates from the resulting image) and many, many more. This needs a lot of tweaking to be usable but it might be an interesting starting point for further work on packagizing various parts of the system. I've put the resulting image up at http://www.impara.de/~andreas/tweak/TweakOnly.zip (~4.5MB image file; ~2.7MB zip w/ changes file).
Cheers,
- Andreas
Tweak mailing list Tweak@impara.de http://impara.de/mailman/listinfo/tweak
Tweak mailing list Tweak@impara.de http://impara.de/mailman/listinfo/tweak
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je dirais: eviter le graphisme si necessaire en morphic le faire mais sans trop se prendre la tete attendre Tweak sinon faire tout en seaside.
Dis moi en plus que je te dise car developper en morphic est faisable bien sur.
Stef
On 7 déc. 04, at 10:10, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Stéphane,
Est-ce dire qu'il est déconseillé de développer avec Morph et qu'il est plus sage d'attendre TWEAK ?
J'ai essayé une image toute prête contenant TWEAK. Cela semble plus rapide, sinon pour le reste aucun idée.
Hilaire
Le mar 30/11/2004 à 16:13, stéphane ducasse a écrit :
je pense que cela peut interesser les gens qui s'interessent aux interfaces utilisateurs... an old page on tweak at http://www.impara.de/tweak/tcar
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Andreas Raab" andreas.raab@gmx.de Date: 29 novembre 2004 16:59:07 GMT+01:00 To: tweak@impara.de Subject: Re: [Tweak] Progress on running "Tweak-only" Reply-To: tweak@impara.de
This should have been:
http://www.impara.de/~andreas/Tweak/TweakOnly.zip
Cheers,
- Andreas
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Raab" andreas.raab@gmx.de To: tweak@impara.de Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:54 PM Subject: [Tweak] Progress on running "Tweak-only"
Folks,
As you are probably aware one of the major goals of Tweak is to replace both Morphic and MVC. Last week I've made some major progress in this regard by actually ripping out both Morphic and MVC (and more
- see below) with only Tweak running as the UI system. For those of
you who are interested in this, here is a shorthand version of the process:
- Update your Tweak to the very latest
- Execute "CWorldPlayer run" to run Tweak in fullscreen, exclusive
mode.
- Open a Transcript (from the tools) so that you see some progress
- Open a workspace and execute "CWorldPlayer zapAllButTweak"
- When the process is complete save your image under a new name
("save image" is now accessible in the world menu)
Be advised that the zapping process right now is overly agressive - it kills many things that you may want to preserve, including facilities like socket support (e.g., you cannot run updates from the resulting image) and many, many more. This needs a lot of tweaking to be usable but it might be an interesting starting point for further work on packagizing various parts of the system. I've put the resulting image up at http://www.impara.de/~andreas/tweak/TweakOnly.zip (~4.5MB image file; ~2.7MB zip w/ changes file).
Cheers,
- Andreas
Tweak mailing list Tweak@impara.de http://impara.de/mailman/listinfo/tweak
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Le mar 07/12/2004 à 12:19, stéphane ducasse a écrit :
je dirais: eviter le graphisme si necessaire en morphic le faire mais sans trop se prendre la tete attendre Tweak sinon faire tout en seaside.
Dis moi en plus que je te dise car developper en morphic est faisable bien sur.
Je voulais parler de développement d'application avec un interface utilisateur écrite avec Morphic
On 7 déc. 04, at 17:00, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Le mar 07/12/2004 à 12:19, stéphane ducasse a écrit :
je dirais: eviter le graphisme si necessaire en morphic le faire mais sans trop se prendre la tete attendre Tweak sinon faire tout en seaside.
Dis moi en plus que je te dise car developper en morphic est faisable bien sur.
Je voulais parler de développement d'application avec un interface utilisateur écrite avec Morphic
c'est faisable et puis si Tweak devient vraiment sexy tu peux toujours le porter. L'idee est que Tweak doit pouvoir emuler Morphic pour que les appli morphic tournent en Tweak.
Stef
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