etoys-dev March 2010

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Fwd: [Localization] Best practices for developers
by Bert Freudenberg 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

A great link from Clytie about localization issues ... Begin forwarded message: > > From: Clytie Siddall <clytie(a)riverland.net.au> > Date: 24. März 2010 07:22:26 MEZ > To: localization(a)lists.laptop.org > Subject: Re: [Localization] Best practices for developers > > Sorry I didn't reply earlier. > > On 19/03/2010, at 7:33 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > >> Is there as document somewhere for "best practices" in making activities translatable? > > This is an excellent guide: > > http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/guide/start > > :) > > from Clytie > > Vietnamese Free Software Translation Team > _______________________________________________ > Localization mailing list > Localization(a)lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization - Bert -

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EToys Crash
by Steve Thomas 22 Mar '10

22 Mar '10

FYI, I tried downloading the project http://squeakland.org/launcher/?http://squeakland.org/content/showcase/ever… and then tried opening on Macintosh and Etoys Crashed (see output below): FYI, it worked fine in Firefox Process: Squeak VM Opt [1694] Path: /Applications/Etoys 4.app/Contents/MacOS/Squeak VM Opt Identifier: org.squeakland.Etoys4 Version: 4.0 (11) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [80] Date/Time: 2010-03-22 14:52:40.866 -0400 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.2 (10C540) Report Version: 6 Interval Since Last Report: 233280 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 2 Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 3127388 sec Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 2 Anonymous UUID: 7FB71FBE-CAB2-4AD5-A216-8509163FCD6F Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000ff122f78 Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Application Specific Information: abort() called Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x98082732 __kill + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x98082724 kill$UNIX2003 + 32 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9811598d raise + 26 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9812ba44 abort + 93 4 org.squeakland.Etoys4 0x001061f1 sigsegv + 49 5 ??? 0xffffffff 0 + 4294967295 6 ??? 0x249c3ff4 0 + 614219764 7 ??? 0x2f713b00 0 + 795949824 Thread 1: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x980480ea kevent + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x98048804 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 215 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x98047cc3 _dispatch_queue_invoke + 163 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x98047a68 _dispatch_worker_thread2 + 234 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x980474f1 _pthread_wqthread + 390 5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x98047336 start_wqthread + 30 Thread 2: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9802193a semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9804f445 _pthread_cond_wait + 1066 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9807e028 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47 3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90ee4235 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 242 4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90ee3f73 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 511 5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90f0816b TimerThread + 97 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9804efbd _pthread_start + 345 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9804ee42 thread_start + 34 Thread 3: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x98047182 __workq_kernreturn + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x98047718 _pthread_wqthread + 941 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x98047336 start_wqthread + 30 Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit): eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x9812b9f3 ecx: 0xbfffe3dc edx: 0x98082732 edi: 0x1f400004 esi: 0xbfffe750 ebp: 0xbfffe3f8 esp: 0xbfffe3dc ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00000282 eip: 0x98082732 cs: 0x00000007 ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037 cr2: 0x00831e00 Binary Images: 0x1000 - 0x11efe7 +org.squeakland.Etoys4 4.0 (11) <51A879AB-94BF-0AE3-CB1F-3DE257DBE604> /Applications/Etoys 4.app/Contents/MacOS/Squeak VM Opt 0x14901000 - 0x14902ffc +org.squeak.LocalePlugin 1.0.1b1 (1.0.1b1) /Applications/Etoys 4.app/Contents/Resources/LocalePlugin.bundle/Contents/MacOS/LocalePlugin 0x14906000 - 0x14907ff9 +org.squeak.ClipboardExtendedPlugin 1.1.0b1 (1.1.0b1) <5998493C-DF1A-4816-7970-C7BDC4865830> /Applications/Etoys 4.app/Contents/Resources/ClipboardExtendedPlugin.bundle/Contents/MacOS/ClipboardExtendedPlugin 0x8fe00000 - 0x8fe4162b dyld 132.1 (???) <226BF7A0-94E0-2F4C-6D6B-9189C952331C> /usr/lib/dyld 0x90003000 - 0x90007ff7 IOSurface ??? 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(???) <D45B91B2-2B4C-AAC0-8096-1FC48B7E9672> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib Model: MacBook6,1, BootROM MB61.00C8.B00, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.26 GHz, 2 GB, SMC 1.51f53 Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, PCI, 256 MB Memory Module: global_name AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x93), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.131.6 ) Bluetooth: Version 2.2.4f3, 2 service, 0 devices, 1 incoming serial ports Network Service: Ethernet, Ethernet, en0 Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS545025B9SA02, 232.89 GB Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-898 USB Device: Built-in iSight, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8507, 0x24400000 USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x0236, 0x04600000 USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0x06100000 USB Device: Bluetooth Module, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8218, 0x06130000 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Parichay Parivesh < parivesh.parichay(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > I have created an activity to teach 3-5 years old kids different mode of > transportation, it designed for XO laptop. I have used etoy for > scripting. I have upload in squeak show case and I am send the link as well > "http://squeakland.org/launcher/?http://squeakland > .org/content/showcase/everyone/accounts/pariveshp > /GOING%20ON%20A%20RIDE%20GAME%20Final.pr" > > please have look and mail me your review. Your review is very important for > me because I have to put into my report. > -- > Kinds Regards > Parichay Parivesh > +447503433720 > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP(a)lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >

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Re: [JIRA] Commented: (SQ-682) 'forward by' when snap to grid is true move one gridspace forward.
by karl ramberg 22 Mar '10

22 Mar '10

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Bert Freudenberg (JIRA) <tracker(a)squeakland.org> wrote: > > [ http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-682?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.… ] > > Bert Freudenberg commented on SQ-682: > ------------------------------------- > > I don't think this would be a good idea. The gridding is for manual placement of objects. > > But feel free to discuss on the squeakland list (since this is changing behavior, it's not just for developers). I agree it's a big change and maybe you are right. Maybe it' just complicates stuff unnecessary. But we kind of do this on the pixel grid already by moving one pixel forward ;-) Another related change is defining movement to for example centimeters instead of pixels. But it is a fundamental change and need more discussion. Karl > >> 'forward by' when snap to grid is true move one gridspace forward. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Key: SQ-682 >> URL: http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-682 >> Project: squeakland >> Issue Type: Feature >> Components: etoys >> Reporter: Karl Ramberg >> >> When snap to grid is turned on it would be nice if forward by moved the player one grid space forward. Like wise for all the height, width turn etc that they reflected the preference griding and showed the grid values instead of the pixel values. > > -- > This message is automatically generated by JIRA. > - > If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://tracker.squeakland.org/secure/Administrators.jspa > - > For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira > > >

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GSoC - I would like to participate as a student
by Ricardo Moran 22 Mar '10

22 Mar '10

Hi, I'm interested in working as a student for the "Squeakland education project". I think I can do a nice job, I have some experience in Smalltalk and Etoys and I know how to develop tiles for specific purposes. I'm very interested in Etoys and, of course, I think this is a great opportunity for me. I've never participated in GSoC before, so I'm not really aware of the process. I'm reading all the articles I could find, though. Regarding the project proposal, I think I understand most of it but I would like to know a little more detail of what you're thinking (especially in the "Learner and Teacher Feedback" part). I hope you find me worthy of consideration to participate in the program :) Cheers Richo

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ANN: Waveplace in Haiti 2010
by Timothy Falconer 21 Mar '10

21 Mar '10

Hi everyone, I'm sitting here with Beth Santos, about to board a plane to Port-Au-Prince, Haiti where we'll be joined by Bill Stelzer and John Engle. After spending the night at John's house, we'll fly to the island of Lagonav where we'll start a two week workshop at Matènwa Community Learning Center with Chris Low, Benaja Antoine, 20 trainee mentors, and 26 children. Our goal is for these twenty mentors to train another twenty mentors, so that they can all lead eight Waveplace pilots using XO laptops and Squeak Etoys, all in the next two months. Hopefully this will set the stage for a much larger deployment this summer, starting with our expanded workshop in St John in late May (May 24th to June 2nd). I'd like to extend a huge thank you to OLPC for redonating the 200 laptops that are being used by the 40 mentors and 160 children in Haiti. Adam, Nia, Matt, and SJ have been invaluable to Waveplace in the last two months. OLPC is truly a great organization. I've been blogging each morning for the last ten days, and will continue to blog every morning throughout the next six weeks. Follow along at: http://waveplace.com/news/blog We'll also be twittering frequently, so please subscribe to http://twitter.com/waveplace. Anyway, here we go folks. It's been a busy two months, but we'll be there in a few hours. Take care, Tim -- Timothy Falconer Waveplace Foundation http://waveplace.com 610-797-3100

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Re: [Localization] Plurals handling in etoys
by Bert Freudenberg 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

On 16.03.2010, at 08:18, Clytie Siddall wrote: > > Hi everyone :) > > I've just submitted a bug report: > > http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-680 > > about the lack of plurals handling in the etoys PO file on Pootle. This is a surprisingly basic error. :S Maybe not so surprising if you think about that Etoys/Squeak is more than 10 years old (actually some bits are literally >30 years old) and has only very recently adopted gettext-style translations. As you can see from the number of strings that had to be marked as translatable, it's entirely unsurprising it's not perfect. In fact, since we had to write our own gettext exporter I'm almost certain it does not even handle plural forms at all yet. So don't expect a fix soon. But thanks for opening that ticket, someone will get around to it eventually :) - Bert -

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Re: quick guides translations
by Bert Freudenberg 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

On 16.03.2010, at 02:26, Kathleen Harness wrote: > Hello, > I tried to enter these comments in Jira but got a message that I was not permitted to post, even though I was logged in and have done so before. The error message linked to a form fbut there was no form there. Mailing to support911-at-immuexa.com is the Right Thing To Do in such a case. > I do get lost in Jira, sorry. I still don't like it either. Yes, I know the saying about the gift horse, but what if what we need is a farm horse rather than a thoroughbred? Suggestions welcome. > anyway . . . Anyway ... > I revised Sdenka's Spanish translations, with her permission, so those guides are now aligned with Etoys 4. I sent Sdenka a zip file of them and also posted them on EtoysIllinois. I will be happy to send the zip file, just tell me addresses. Once JIRA works again for you I think it would be best to attach to the relevant tickets. > The Italian translations of the guides are aligned with Etoys 4 and are posted on EtoysIllinois . I can send them in a zip file too. They were translated by a volunteer; Stephen Trofinoff who works at NCSA/UIUC. All of the tiles and menus are not yet translated into Italian but the guides may be useful as a starting place for teachers. > > Future quick guide translations include: French, German, Portuguese, Greek and Japanese > I am in contact with volunteers for all of these languages. Some are being translated directly into Etoys and those I will just edit so they all look similar to the original spacing and placements. Other translators are typing text into word documents and I will retype into the guides.They work at their own pace; I will tell you when I have news. Awesome! Thank you :) > The directory/folder link in Bert's note is one I will try later in the week, we may be getting to the edge of my knowledge in that area but I will try. > Regards, > Kathleen Hehe. I think it's simple, but don't hesitate to ask here :) - Bert -

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Image-segments and closures
by Bert Freudenberg 16 Mar '10

16 Mar '10

That's something we will have to look out for, too ... - Bert - Begin forwarded message: > > From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> > Date: 16. März 2010 00:05:42 MEZ > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > Cc: Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion <vm-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > Subject: [Vm-dev] Re: Some notes about SqueakMap dead in trunk images... > Reply-To: Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion <vm-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > > On 3/15/2010 1:26 PM, Göran Krampe wrote: >> But so far I am unclear as to why this is so. I have now tested LOTS of >> trunk images backwards and it seems to be broken all the way down to >> 7179! Funny thing is - my 3.10.1-7175 image works fine. >> >> And there may be a hint here: The 7175 image can be opened by an old >> 3-9-8 VM. But the later 7179 images can NOT be opened due to some kind >> of image format change. > > Bingo. The issue is that the image format changed for closures and there's been a bug in the image segment loading code that makes the primitive fail in cases where the image format is older, but compatible. I've posted a fix for that in VMMaker but I really think SM should stop using image segments for data exchange. Image segments are not a reliable long-term interchange format in an evolving system. > > Obviously, this fix requires new VMs. > > Cheers, > - Andreas

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Dev meeting
by Bert Freudenberg 15 Mar '10

15 Mar '10

Hi folks, we had a brief chat today, log below. Even more brief: * QuickGuides translations: see http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-297 * new update stream: send me your htpasswd (privately) to be able to commit * Tim is busy: don't wait for him to start doing stuff here again, just Do It :) So long, - Bert - [16:54:29] <milan_zimmermann> just a note, i will be away during today software meet. [19:49:53] --> ohshima (~ohshima(a)208.49.99.3) has joined #etoys [20:19:05] <milan_zimmermann> actually i made it back sort of in time, maybe we are not on .. do not see tim [20:20:01] <kencausey> or Rita [20:20:15] <kencausey> Is life intruding for Tim these days? [20:21:27] <jecel> Tim is deeply involved in the Haiti OLPC deployment, I think [20:21:32] <kencausey> Ah [20:22:06] <bertf> rita is not here [20:22:42] <bertf> milan_zimmermann: anythin you want to talk about? [20:23:47] <bertf> I have looked at localized quickguides [20:23:49] <bertf> http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-297 [20:24:39] <bertf> made a version for testing - it has english and spanish guides [20:24:46] <bertf> http://etoys.squeak.org/experimental/ [20:25:19] <milan_zimmermann> bertf - i did not made any progress, i need to look at karl's image he is preparing for etoys unloading/loading via NC , but me weekend was completely full [20:25:27] <bertf> someone would have to add more languages. even the spanish is outdated [20:25:40] <bertf> milan_zimmermann: sure. just asking :) [20:26:13] <milan_zimmermann> bertf - how different is the quickguides from the version in released etoys [20:26:34] <bertf> milan_zimmermann: no idea. but kathleen has been hard a twork I hear [20:27:03] <bertf> well this version is identical to the last release, it only adds a spanish translation [20:27:29] <milan_zimmermann> ah i see [20:27:51] <bertf> this is just to make it easy for the educators or someone else to test adding more languages [20:28:47] <bertf> Btw, I got zero applications for commit rights to the update stream [20:28:58] <bertf> I'd have expected at least someone to respond [20:30:06] <milan_zimmermann> on etoys-dev ? sorry i have not even checked since last week [20:30:33] <milan_zimmermann> am late on everything... [20:30:50] <bertf> was more than a week ago I think. I announced a new update stream [20:31:16] <milan_zimmermann> the one you and ken created on squeak? [20:31:21] <milan_zimmermann> webdav [20:31:30] <bertf> ah no. last week. I made it with Ken after the last meeting [20:31:36] <bertf> yes that one [20:32:11] <kencausey> yep, just one weedk [20:32:13] <kencausey> err week [20:32:25] <milan_zimmermann> understand .. i will reply with a request for upload rights, although have [20:32:37] <bertf> don [20:32:40] <bertf> 't [20:32:42] <milan_zimmermann> s/although have// [20:32:49] <milan_zimmermann> oh [20:32:52] <bertf> err. don't send the passwd to the list ;) [20:33:29] <bertf> I mean feel free to reply publically but do not include the password [20:33:46] <milan_zimmermann> yes :0 [20:34:01] <kencausey> "aka Think Before Posting" [20:34:20] <milan_zimmermann> yes [20:34:44] <bertf> kencausey: hehe. well sending around an ssh pubkey is okay but htpasswd is not ... [20:35:14] <bertf> and unless you know the details it sort-of seems similar [20:36:32] <bertf> another btw: I briefly chatted with tim today. he indeed is in Haiti-mode, doesn't have time for anything else. talked to him about creole translations [20:37:19] <kencausey> good to know [20:37:34] <-- jecel (~jecel(a)189-19-1-51.dsl.telesp.net.br) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:41:22] <milan_zimmermann> is there beginnings of creole translation for etoys? i just looked at https://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/etoys but cannot reach [20:43:47] <bertf> sugarlabs has server problems [20:44:27] <bertf> but in Etoys we have an "ht" translation, yes [20:44:56] <bertf> anyway about tim: don't wait for him to start doing stuff again, just Do It :) [20:52:58] <milan_zimmermann> i realize that - i am only limited by myself (time, work etc) - and that is a big limitation for a long time :( [20:53:56] <bertf> Well that's just how it is. No worries :) [20:53:59] <bertf> so we're done with the meeting then I guess.? [20:55:00] <milan_zimmermann> i think so - thanks for getting in touch (and all your work!) [20:56:05] <milan_zimmermann> ok bye now everyone [20:59:43] <bertf> bye

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Physical Etoys released!
by Ricardo Moran 13 Mar '10

13 Mar '10

Hi! I would like to announce the first publicly available version of Physical Etoys (http://tecnodacta.com.ar/gira/projects/physical-etoys/). Physical Etoys is an "extension" to Etoys. We believe Etoys is a wonderful software that helps children explore their own creativity in fun and educational ways, so we wanted to give Etoys the possibility to interact with real world objects such as robotic kits and innovative joysticks. The current list of supported hardware: 1. Arduino, an open-source physical computing platform based on a simple microcontroller board. 2. Nintendo Wiimote, the primary controller for Nintendo’s Wii console. 3. Parallel port, a type of interface for connecting various peripherals to the computer. 4. RoboSapien v2, a toy-like biomorphic robot. 5. Roboquad, a 4-legged robot that somewhat resembles a spider and a dog. 6. I-Sobot, the world’s smallest humanoid robot in production. 7. Lego Mindstorms Nxt, a programmable robotics kit released by Lego. Unfortunately, this version of Physical Etoys only works in Windows. We are currently working on supporting Linux (especially the Sugar platform) so stay tuned for future releases! Check our website (http://tecnodacta.com.ar/gira/projects/physical-etoys/) for more information. Cheers! Richo

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