etoys-dev February 2012

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sixteen items for Squeakland 2012 - item 9: ScratchConnect
by Ricardo Moran 12 Mar '12

12 Mar '12

> 9. Add Koji Yokokawa's ScratchConnect (game controls and game displays) > This will allow kids to create “game controllers” using Etoys Projects on > one set of computers to control a “game display” (another Etoys or Scratch > Project) on another computer. > > Hi, I've been looking at ScratchConnect ( http://www.squeaksource.com/ScratchConnect.html) and I think it would be cool if we can include it in the release. I think the code seems fine. Although it doesn't follow the Etoys pattern of adding methods directly to Player, I don't think this minor difference is important enough to fork it. The other problem is the license, I haven't found any info about it yet. Should we ask the author about it? Cheers, Richo

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Item 17 for the list - Subbu's stencil/silhoueete tool
by Steve Thomas 01 Mar '12

01 Mar '12

Folks, Subbu wrote a wonderful Art tool for Etoys which should have been on the list (didn't catch it was missing until now. Below is a description of its use by a French Art teacher See http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Grab_area_button I also attached the changeset Subbu sent me. I played with it a lot and have not yet run into any issues (but I didn't try real hard either) Stephen

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magic tank storybook translation
by Timothy Falconer 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Hi everyone, http://squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=11786 Just posted an Etoys storybook that I attempted to translate from English into Portuguese, Spanish, German, and French with Google. Please let me know if Google's translations are off so I can correct them. Also, please comment if you like it so the authors may hear from the world. -- Apenas publicou um livro de histórias Etoys que eu tentei traduzir do Inglês para o Português, espanhol, alemão e francês com o Google. Por favor, deixe-me saber se as traduções do Google estão fora para que eu possa corrigi-los. Além disso, por favor, comente se você gostar dele de modo que os autores podem ouvir o mundo. -- Acaba de publicar un libro de cuentos Etoys que he tratado de traducir del Inglés al portugués, español, alemán y francés con Google. Por favor, hágamelo saber si las traducciones de Google están fuera para que pueda corregirlos. También, por favor comente si le gusta lo que los autores pueden saber de todo el mundo. -- So erzielte ein Etoys Märchenbuch, dass ich aus dem Englischen ins Portugiesisch, Spanisch, Deutsch und Französisch mit Google übersetzen versuchte. Bitte lassen Sie mich wissen, wenn die Google-Übersetzungen aus sind, damit ich sie korrigieren kann. Auch, bitte kommentieren, wenn Sie es so die Autoren aus der ganzen Welt hören mögen können. -- Juste un livre de contes posté Etoys que j'ai tenté de traduire de l'anglais vers le portugais, espagnol, allemand, et français avec Google. S'il vous plaît laissez-moi savoir si les traductions de Google sont éteints pour que je puisse les corriger. En outre, s'il vous plaît commentaire si vous le souhaitez afin que les auteurs peuvent entendre le monde.

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Future Release feature: A slide/glide tile
by Steve Thomas 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

So I created SQ-1021 <http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-1021> where I am looking for something similar to Scratch's <glide [n} secs to x:[ ] y: [ ]> tile, but more generic. A scripting tile that changed any numeric value incrementally over a period of time. Something like: <glide: <numeric Attribute> to: [new value] in [] secs. Use Cases: 1. Change the width/length of a playfield, to create a Mouse Over drop down type menu 2. Glide to position X,Y in z seconds 3. Changing alpha to create fade in/fade out effects 4. Changing other color values (just for fun, and imagine if I could address each pixel in a graphic this way :D, okay Karl already imagined and implemented that the color reader/writer way, thanks Karl) I tried doing this in the existing Etoys and it is possible, the problems (at least for me) are: 1. You have to re-create the same basic script each time for each attribute and player, first time cool, after that, boring and tedious (well that's another enhancement request) 2. You can't pass an attribute in as a parameter to a script (this I think would solve the problem, and if I could pass more than one variable to a script, I could pass: 1. player 2. numeric attribute 3. time 4. new value. Cheers, Stephen

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SQ-1013 - button to show script (How to make scripts "visible/discoverable" without having your screen covered with scriptors all the time)
by Steve Thomas 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Scott, I like the idea in SQ-1013 <http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-1013>, but have some other thoughts on solving the problem which I prototyped in Etoys (using tile scripting only, Etoys Rocks!!!). Am sharing with the dev list and the rest of the community to get their ideas and input. The project can be seen here<http://www.squeakland.org/launcher?http://tracker.squeakland.org/secure/att…> . Couple more changes to the prototypes in my project I would suggest: 1. The "Collapse/Uncollapse" button should be right next to the script name, so you don't get that visual jerkiness of the button moving when you click it. 2. Instead of just changing length and folding up, you could fold in to (ie: set the width to just past the "Collapse/Uncollapse" button to have more visible screen real estate. 3. We may want a Show/Hide all scripts option (perhaps with a keyboard shortcut.) FYI, I misnamed some of the buttons in the project as "Show/Hide" when they were really "Collapse/Uncollapse", then realized we need both. 4. It would be nice to have a more visually appealing "Collapse/Uncollapse" method, where instead of changing the length of the Script Editor, we "glide" the change over a period of time. (I started playing around trying to prototype this and ran into other issues, but separate subject and a separate email will follow). Thanks for all your work (and Richo's and Karl's, Bert's, Subbu's, ...) the next version of Etoys will be even better with bug fixes and new features, can't wait!!! Stephen

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Item for Squeaklamd 2013 - Event Theatre ==> YouTube video
by Steve Thomas 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

So I had the good fortune of having lunch with Ricardo today. And one of the things that I brought up in our discussions was Adreés Monroy-Hernández's comment in Supporting an Online Community for Kids<http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/andresmh/2011/11/supporting-an-online-communit…> (talking about the Scratch website, my emphasis added): "If I were to do this again in 2011, I would strongly suggest to be able to post to YouTube *very easily*." So while Ricardo made the excellent point that we tend to oversimplify things when we first learn programming only to find out about all the really hard details. I will ignore his comments and in the spirit of oversimplification ask: Is it possible to turn an Event Theatre "playback" into a YouTube video? I know Bert did something cool for the squeakland website where he created an animated gif, from within Etoys, perhaps something similar but publishable to YouTube (et al) to help with that whole Social Networking trend, that seems so popular with the kids. ;) Yours in not so humble service, Stephen

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Re: [etoys-dev] Etoys: Etoys-Richo.111.mcz
by Scott Wallace 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Yay -- hooray once again for Richo! Great for this one to get done! -- Scott On Feb 28, 2012, at 7:29 PM, commits(a)source.squeak.org wrote: > Ricardo Moran uploaded a new version of Etoys to project Etoys: > http://source.squeak.org/etoys/Etoys-Richo.111.mcz > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: Etoys-Richo.111 > Author: Richo > Time: 28 February 2012, 4:27:50 pm > UUID: d6b04048-9a47-2649-8409-1429f9897fed > Ancestors: Etoys-kfr.110 > > * Preserved "Subject" information in the EToyProjectDetailsMorph when reading in older projects, transferring the info into the free-form "Tags" field. > > =============== Diff against Etoys-kfr.110 =============== > > Item was changed: > ----- Method: EToyProjectDetailsMorph>>fillInDetails (in category 'project details') ----- > fillInDetails > "Given that the receiver's namedFields is already set up, give each such field its appropriate initial value." > > + | elements | > - | elements item | > theProject ifNotNil: > [namedFields at: 'projectname' ifPresent: > [:field | field contentsWrapped: theProject name]]. > > projectDetails ifNotNil: > [self fieldToDetailsMappings do: [ :tuple | > namedFields at: tuple first ifPresent: [ :field | > projectDetails at: tuple second ifPresent: [ :data | > elements := self choicesFor: tuple first. > elements > ifNil: > [field contentsWrapped: data] > ifNotNil: > + [| item | > + item := elements detect: [:el | el first = data] ifNone: [nil]. > - [item := elements detect: [:el | el first = data] ifNone: [nil]. > item ifNotNil: > [field contentsWrapped: item third translated] > ifNil: > + [field contentsWrapped: '(none)' translated]]]]]. > + "Compatibility with older projects" > + projectDetails at: 'projectcategory' ifPresent: [:data | > + ((self choicesFor: #subject) > + detect: [:el | el first = data] > + ifNone: [nil]) > + ifNotNil: [:item | > + namedFields > + at: #keywords > + ifPresent: [:field | > + field contentsWrapped: > + (item third translated, > + ', ', > + field contents asString)]]]]! > - [field contentsWrapped: '(none)' translated]]]]]]! > > _______________________________________________ > etoys-dev mailing list > etoys-dev(a)squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev

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Etoys: Etoys-Richo.111.mcz
by commits＠source.squeak.org 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

Ricardo Moran uploaded a new version of Etoys to project Etoys: http://source.squeak.org/etoys/Etoys-Richo.111.mcz ==================== Summary ==================== Name: Etoys-Richo.111 Author: Richo Time: 28 February 2012, 4:27:50 pm UUID: d6b04048-9a47-2649-8409-1429f9897fed Ancestors: Etoys-kfr.110 * Preserved "Subject" information in the EToyProjectDetailsMorph when reading in older projects, transferring the info into the free-form "Tags" field. =============== Diff against Etoys-kfr.110 =============== Item was changed: ----- Method: EToyProjectDetailsMorph>>fillInDetails (in category 'project details') ----- fillInDetails "Given that the receiver's namedFields is already set up, give each such field its appropriate initial value." + | elements | - | elements item | theProject ifNotNil: [namedFields at: 'projectname' ifPresent: [:field | field contentsWrapped: theProject name]]. projectDetails ifNotNil: [self fieldToDetailsMappings do: [ :tuple | namedFields at: tuple first ifPresent: [ :field | projectDetails at: tuple second ifPresent: [ :data | elements := self choicesFor: tuple first. elements ifNil: [field contentsWrapped: data] ifNotNil: + [| item | + item := elements detect: [:el | el first = data] ifNone: [nil]. - [item := elements detect: [:el | el first = data] ifNone: [nil]. item ifNotNil: [field contentsWrapped: item third translated] ifNil: + [field contentsWrapped: '(none)' translated]]]]]. + "Compatibility with older projects" + projectDetails at: 'projectcategory' ifPresent: [:data | + ((self choicesFor: #subject) + detect: [:el | el first = data] + ifNone: [nil]) + ifNotNil: [:item | + namedFields + at: #keywords + ifPresent: [:field | + field contentsWrapped: + (item third translated, + ', ', + field contents asString)]]]]! - [field contentsWrapped: '(none)' translated]]]]]]!

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Re: [etoys-dev] Etoys: Etoys-Richo.109.mcz
by Scott Wallace 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

What's still missing here however is to preserve "Subject" information when reading in older projects, transferring the info into the free-form "Tags" field… -- Scott On Feb 25, 2012, at 10:10 PM, commits(a)source.squeak.org wrote: > Ricardo Moran uploaded a new version of Etoys to project Etoys: > http://source.squeak.org/etoys/Etoys-Richo.109.mcz > > ==================== Summary ==================== > > Name: Etoys-Richo.109 > Author: Richo > Time: 25 February 2012, 7:09:54 pm > UUID: 4e4101da-5f52-7948-be93-833f3eb95b7f > Ancestors: Etoys-Richo.108 > > Sixteen items for Squeakland 2012: > 8. When saving file display only: Name, Notes and Tags - Remove Subject, Target Age, and Region - Matches Scratch (can fold subject entries into tags for existing and older versions) > > I just commented the code, it might be good to clean up a bit but I didn't dare to remove anything. > > =============== Diff against Etoys-Richo.108 =============== > > Item was changed: > ----- Method: EToyProjectDetailsMorph>>fieldToDetailsMappings (in category 'project details') ----- > fieldToDetailsMappings > "Answer an array describing, top to bottom, the details of each element. > Each element is a tuple consisting of: > 1. field name (internal) > 2. key in the project-details dictionary > 3. text (english version) to be shown in the entry's label at left. > 4. vertical space to allow > 5. entry type: (if missing, text is implied) > #text --> editable text field > #popUp --> pop-up of choices" > ^{ > {#description. 'projectdescription'. 'Description' translatedNoop. 100}. > {#author. 'projectauthor'. 'Author' translatedNoop. 20}. > {#keywords. 'projectkeywords'. 'Tags' translatedNoop. 20}. > + "{#subject. 'projectcategory'. 'Subject' translatedNoop. 20. #popUp}. > - {#subject. 'projectcategory'. 'Subject' translatedNoop. 20. #popUp}. > {#age. 'projectage'. 'Target Age' translatedNoop. 20. #popUp}. > + {#region. 'projectregion'. 'Region' translatedNoop. 20. #popUp}. " > - {#region. 'projectregion'. 'Region' translatedNoop. 20. #popUp}. > > } > ! > > _______________________________________________ > etoys-dev mailing list > etoys-dev(a)squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev

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SQ-1026 - Adding a Parameter removes the Single Step Icon in Scriptor
by Steve Thomas 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

SQ-1026 <http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-1026> This may be by design, but I can still execute the script from the viewer, perhaps in NEXT release we could solve this. Not a show stopper IMO. Stephen

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