etoys-dev July 2009

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Re: [JIRA] Commented: (SQ-154) Make it simple to show and hide the toolbar
by Scott Wallace 20 Dec '09

20 Dec '09

On Jul 16, 2009, at 9:25 PM, jira(a)immuexa.com wrote: > [ http://tracker.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-154?page=comments#action_35752 > ] > > Milan Zimmerman commented on SQ-154: > ------------------------------------ > > This makes sense. I am out of time now, but will test tomorrow or > early weekend. Thank you, Milan! By mutual agreement among Bert, Yoshiki, and me, we decided to push the latest fixes embodied in SQ-88, SQ-154, and SQ-257 to the etoys4.0 update stream today. This will make it easier for more people to test, and we still have time before squeakfest/brasil to fix any issues that may arise. Cheers, -- Scott

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Wording in Clouds
by Yoshiki Ohshima 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

Hello, A complaint from many users in South America was that the wordings in the clouds in the initial screen. As we've shown at the Squeakfest, at least for "simple" languages like Portugese and Spanish and etc., we can just embed the translation in the text morphs. For a starter, please send us the Portugese and Spanish translation (and others) for: - Make A Project - Gallery of Projects - Tutorials And Demos Thank you! -- Yoshiki Eventually, it would be nice to automate it, but it is still a bit tricky...

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greetings from Squeakfest Brasil!
by Timothy Falconer 04 Aug '09

04 Aug '09

Greetings from Porto Alegre, Brasil! As I write this from breakfast, the sun is coming up over the city. I'll soon be joined by the ten of us who have traveled here to represent Squeakland Foundation and our respective Etoys organizations. Most of us flew in yesterday, then met last night for a wonderful dinner hosted by Intel, one of the conference sponsors. It was very nice seeing everyone last night. While we speak frequently together through Skype and Qwaq, there's nothing quite like meeting in person. At dinner we had time to discuss ours lives outside Etoys, getting to know each other in a way that's much harder to do through the Internet. Today should be quite a day. At this point, more than 280 people have registered for the conference. Given that the main conference room seats 250, it might be standing room only. We plan to chat throughout the conference on Etoys chat channel (http://chat.squeakland.org ), which you can read later at the chat log (http://squeakland.org/sm/storybot ). Stop by and say hello so you can be part of the event, from wherever you happen to be now. Have a look at the schedule (http://squeakland.org/squeakfest/brasil/schedule/ ) to follow along. We'll be getting the English translation of the schedule up soon. And remember, we're following up this conference in a few weeks with another at UCLA in Los Angeles. Please come join us there. You can register (http://squeakland.org/squeakfest/usa/register/) on the Squeakfest USA website. Special thanks to Marta Voelcker and the rest of her team for organizing this event. Their hard work really shows.

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Wiki Spaces help for new users
by Frederick Grose 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

After joining the Confluence site, upon login, a new user is taken to a dashboard with no 'spaces' or instructions for adding one. Upon clicking a link like http://confluence.immuexa.com/display/sq/Development, an error appears, "The page you were trying to reach does not exist. You may want to try a search, or browse the site to find the page you were looking for." Thank you, --Fred

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Re: [etoys-dev] binary loading (was: FreeCell: Etoys interaction with Journal via DBus on Sugar (OLPC))
by Hilaire Fernandes 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

I am interested by binary loading. It can help to attract more developer as it makes life more efficient for those like me willing to write/extend etoys with additional application like Dr Geo[1] without the need to fork Hilaire [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/DrGeo 2009/7/30 Jecel Assumpcao Jr <jecel(a)merlintec.com>: > Andreas Raab wrote: >> Bert Freudenberg wrote: >> > Basically we want to deploy a Squeak application, without shipping a >> > custom image. I think that's a new problem, typically Smalltalk apps >> > ship as customized images. >> >> Funny you should mention that. This is something I am actually working >> on in my spare time. I do have the outline for a Squeak application >> bundle that stores binary representations of code (so that the image >> does not require a Compiler; in fact I want to be able to use that to >> load one ;-) and optionally, source code. It's nicely small and fast so >> far (the entirety of Morphic goes into 700k and takes less than a second >> to load) but the work's only just started so there is a long ways to go >> here. If someone is seriously interesting in this direction, drop me a note. > > This is my number one priority for the second half of 2009. I won't be > able to start working on it until late August or September, but have a > very brief explanation at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5637 > > Earlier this year I had proposed a much simpler version of this > (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/584) which wouldn't have the complicated > "swizzling" on load and save nor the multiple viewpoints and new > concurrency model. The focus was exactly on fast binary loading and what > I thought I could get the Squeak community to agree with as a next step. > > Since I was unable to get any interest in the "Squeak friendly" > proposal, I decided I might as well go with the more radical design > instead. This will involve a significant rewrite of ObjectMemory with an > organization using segments (like Self) and fragmented object tables > (like "handles" in early Mac software) which I hope will be equally > useful for small and large (64 bit) memories. > > -- Jecel > > _______________________________________________ > etoys-dev mailing list > etoys-dev(a)squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev > -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

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FreeCell: Etoys interaction with Journal via DBus on Sugar (OLPC)
by Milan Zimmermann 30 Jul '09

30 Jul '09

Hi Bert, During last month, I spent quite a bit of time getting FreeCell interact via DBus with Sugar Datastore. I tried to create a FreeCellLauncher which would register with AutoStart, so that nothing relies on special names such as FREECELL_ACTIVITY_ID, and could be used as a framework to develop and deploy other Etoys-based Sugar activities. Many of the directions I took were dead ends, mostly because CodeLauncher which Launches the code such as FreeCell.st cannot at the point of it's execution add FreeCellLauncher to AutoStart, at least to the best what I tried. I eventually accepted that used FREECELL_ACTIVITY_ID etc. So now, FreeCell does persist it's Statistics on Journal, and can be restarted with persisted Statistics from Journal. Everything is ugly at this point - but I want to make it nicer and generalize things so that they could hopefully serve as a cookbook to deploy Etoys objects as Sugar activities using the same mechanism. I also plan to write one or two blogs on this topic in http://etoys-and- olpc.blogspot.com/ (started already but only as drafts). The FreeCell activity is attached, hope this list allows small attachments. Hope you guys enjoyed Squeakfest Brazil! Later, Milan

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Agenda for Squeakfest LA?
by Milan Zimmermann 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

I cannot find an agenda for Squeakfest LA 2009. Is it defined at this point - at least I'd like to know what time it starts on the 10th and what time it ends on the 12th. Thanks, Milan

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Sketch Divider
by Yoshiki Ohshima 27 Jul '09

27 Jul '09

Avigail, This is the project I showed at Squeakfest. It creates separeted sketches from a sketch based on the color. http://dev.laptop.org/~yoshiki/etoys/SketchDivider.002.pr There is instruction in the project, but here it is: - Make a painting. Use several different colors in the painting. - Set the "target" variable of the DoIt object to the new painting. One way to do it is to get halo of the sketch, click on the orange tile handle and drop it onto the "dot" in the script below and execute the script. Or, open the viewer of the DoIt object, click on the readout of the target variable (the cursor changes to a cross hair shape) and click on the new painting. - Press the blue and red "Do it" button. and the Sketch are divided based on the same color. The code is written textually and uses some Squeak tricks. Basically, you can query a sketch the list of colors it uses. So, after getting the list of colors, it takes each color from the list, replace all other colors from the sketch with the transparent color, and make a new sketch for each color. There would be a more fun Etoys way, but that is homework for others... -- Yoshiki

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Gallery Maker: A way to make your own gallery from projects on server
by Yoshiki Ohshima 27 Jul '09

27 Jul '09

Hi, Randy and everybody, I made a kind of template project that can be used to make your own "gallery of projects" This one is made to create a gallery for a web directory. http://dev.laptop.org/~yoshiki/etoys/GalleryMaker.003.pr The steps are described in the project as well, but here it is (after loading GalleryMaker into a fresh Etoys session): - Let's say you have all projects on a server and accessible via HTTP. In this example, it is http://dev.laptop.org/~yoshiki/etoys/. Change it to your server directory (with trailing slash kept). - Download all projects from the server directory to a local directory. In this example, it is "C:\squeak\olpc\etoys\". - Load all projects from the local directory into this project. You load each of them manually and go back to the previous project. Or, set the local directory name in the below dialog (currently showing C:\squeak\olpc\etoys\) and push "Load Projects" button. - Next, press the "GalleryMaker" button. It'll substitute the little - names in the project thumbnails. Now you can save this project. - Quit Etoys and load the project again. If you click on a thumbnail and it seems take longer than usual, it means that the project is loaded from the server and working as intended. Here, you can remove the garbage, rename the project and save it again. And, you are done! If you have more questions, please let me know. Currently, the version number matters. It would be nice if the clicking a thumbnail brings in the latest version of the project automatically, but I stumbled on some blocks and don't go there this time... -- Yoshiki

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New Etoys Installer (#2237) for testing
by Yoshiki Ohshima 27 Jul '09

27 Jul '09

Hello, Here is another installer for testing: http://tinlizzie.org/~ohshima/EtoysInstaller2237.exe Please give it a try and let us know your opinions and ideas! -- Yoshiki

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