etoys-dev July 2009

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test #2 for etoys-dev@squeakland.org
by Timothy Falconer 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Just testing ... nothing to see here. Ignore this. -- Timothy Falconer Squeakland Foundation http://squeakland.org 610-797-3100

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testing etoys-dev@squeakland.org
by Timothy Falconer 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Testing to see if etoys-dev(a)squeakland.org works. -- Timothy Falconer Squeakland Foundation http://squeakland.org 610-797-3100

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testing etoys-dev@squeakland.org
by Timothy Falconer 07 Jul '09

07 Jul '09

Hi everyone, If you get this message, that means that the new etoys-dev mailing list is working. You were previously subscribed to the etoys(a)laptop.org mailing list, which has now moved to our server. Please do not use etoys(a)laptop.org from now forward... it will soon be closed. Archives are now at: http://lists.squeakland.org/pipermail/etoys-dev/ Take care, Tim -- Timothy Falconer Squeakland Foundation http://squeakland.org 610-797-3100

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Re: [Etoys] SQ-154: Added changeset for the NavigatorBar show/hide buttons
by Scott Wallace 07 Jul '09

07 Jul '09

On Jul 5, 2009, at 11:09 PM, Milan Zimmermann wrote: > Hi Scott, > > Yes, I misunderstood what icons you ment, sorry. > > I have now updated the SQ-154 item with a new changeset: > > showNavBarCtl-sw-mz-updated.2.cs > > should be the only changeset that needs to run to add the show/hide > navigation > bar - but it seems to only work after running > > ReleaseBuilderSqueakland new buildForSqueaklandDev > > was the intention the hide/show navigation bar would also be > available in the > olpc image? That was a bug, now fixed in the latest version of the fileout, which I've just posted to JIRA. Please test latest version; it feels just right to me now... > I also added the 50x50x32 images to SQ-154: > > navbar-show-50x50x32.png > navbar-hide-50x50x32.png > > They are very slightly cleaned from their OLPC originals. These look really good! > Sorry that SQ-154 attachements are unclear - I wanted to delete my > older > changeset and icons but was not able to .. this bug tracking system > gives me > more headaches than any other I used so far, but that's beside the > point My experience has been the same :-( > Sorry for the delay, please let me know if it works for you, Works great. Maybe we can get this out the door! Many thanks, -- Scott

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[Etoys] Project launcher
by K. K. Subramaniam 07 Jul '09

07 Jul '09

Hi, "EToysLauncher openPanel" is a much better open for findAProjectSimple than the current project open dialog. Is there any reason why it is not being used? Is it on the way out? Subbu

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[Etoys] Etoys image size
by K. K. Subramaniam 04 Jul '09

04 Jul '09

Hi, The etoys image size has grown to over 30MB now. How can I generate a report on the top memory hogs by categories or classes (and their instances, of course)? How do I make sure that memory hogs are indeed really needed in the base image and cannot be parceled into projects. TIA .. Subbu

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[Etoys] [Fwd: Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?]
by Rita Freudenberg 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

Hi all, see below an interesting discussion about presentations using Etoys and a wish from Walter Bender. I think it would be very nice to have that etoys bundle, it's something teachers are looking for! And once they have started using Etoys at all, I'm sure they will start scripting soon. What do you think? Greetings, Rita -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint? Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:51:33 -0400 From: Walter Bender <walter.bender(a)gmail.com> To: Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de> CC: It's An Education Project List <iaep(a)lists.sugarlabs.org> References: <4A3FE3C4.2070707(a)walgreens.com> <fd535e260906221433m5fdf8f2bhf70b7b1eb873c0d6(a)mail.gmail.com> <8cc423ef0907020043yed034e0s68a93ce6376eaeeb(a)mail.gmail.com> <899A823D-57BD-4923-9D23-8234201F7F0E(a)freudenbergs.de> I still wish there was a launch-this-project-and-we'll-have-taken-care-of-steps-1–5-below-for-you Etoys bundle kicking around that we could just ship with the Journal. -walter On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bert Freudenberg<bert(a)freudenbergs.de> wrote: > Since this does not seem to be obvious: It's really simple to create > nice presentations in Etoys, there is not even scripting involved: > > 0. Start a fresh Etoys copy (in Strawberry, right-click the Etoys icon > and choose "start" rather than resuming the latest project) > 1. click "new project" > 2. From the "supplies" box in the toolbar, drag out a "book". > 3. Use the top-left button to toggle more book controls > 4. Use the "+" button to add pages > 5. Place text on a page by dragging out a Text from the "supplies" > box, resize after right-clicking by dragging the yellow handle > 6. Import images either via the clipboard or directly from the Journal > (using the Journal icon in the top right) > 7. Add annotations using the paint tool > 8. Add visual and sound effects for turning pages in the book's menu. > 9. Play with the options in the book's menu (like "view pages full > screen") etc. > > ... and of course you can place scripted objects / animations on the > pages too if you like. > > Also, the Etoys QuickGuides (accessible from the left-most button in > the toolbar) have an entire section on Books. > > - Bert - > > On 02.07.2009, at 09:43, David Van Assche wrote: > >> A real simple alternative to powerpoint/impress that looks and smells >> like it, but with maybe really limited functionality would be loved by >> teachers everywhere, At least, all the teachers I have met rely very >> heavily on powerpoint in one form or another, be it integrated into >> other software like moodle or an LMS, or used with an interactive >> whiteboard/touchpad soft, or just used by itself. But normally it is >> used in a very limited fashion, and without much of the fancy >> transitions/coloring/themeing/graphing and all that stuff... IF they >> want something like that, it would make sense to steer them to >> turtleart... but there needs to be something much much simpler... >> >> David >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Walter Bender<walter.bender(a)gmail.com >> > wrote: >>> And we also have Turtle Art as a presentation option (it can keep >>> to a >>> prearranged order :) >>> >>> -walter >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:04 PM, James Simmons<jim.simmons(a)walgreens.com >>> > wrote: >>>> I deleted the digest that contained someone asking about putting >>>> Open >>>> Office on an XO to get alternatives to Excel and PowerPoint, but I'd >>>> like to suggest that with the features I added to View Slides over >>>> the >>>> weekend you *could* use View Slides to create and view >>>> presentations. >>>> What you could do is create individual slides using the Record >>>> Activity >>>> or one of the Paint Activities. These would create separate image >>>> files >>>> in the Journal. Then you'd fire up View Slides to add these >>>> images to a >>>> slide show, arranging them in sequence by renaming the images in the >>>> show, and deleting images that aren't needed. Then View Slides >>>> could be >>>> used to view the presentation. You can even hide the mouse cursor >>>> and >>>> view the images full screen. >>>> >>>> It isn't Power Point, but on the other hand, it isn't Power Point. >>>> >>>> The pictures at http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4039 >>>> tell the story. Unfortunately they tell the story out of sequence. >>>> There doesn't seem to be any way to arrange the pictures in order. >>>> >>>> James Simmons >>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP(a)lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP(a)lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

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[Etoys] [Fwd: [Squeak Announcements] PhidgetLab and NXTalk going live]
by Robert Hirschfeld 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

-------- Original Message -------- [...] Hi, perhaps this is interesting for some people. We hope so. :-) I am glad to announce the availability, as of today, of two Squeak-based projects that both deal with letting Squeak interface with the surrounding world. 1. PhidgetLab Phidgets are sensors and actuators that can be connected to a PC via USB. So far, support for them in Squeak was not freely available - this changes now. :-) A group of students in our group - Lysann Kessler, Stephanie Platz, Thomas Klingbeil, Philipp Tessenow, and Frank Schlegel - have developed PhidgetLab in fulfilment of a coursework assignment. It provides a "low-level" Phidgets API in Squeak, but is also integrated with Etoys. Behold: http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa/projects/phidgetlab/ 2. NXTalk Over the past few years, we've made the occasional announcement of this: it's Smalltalk on Lego Mindstorms NXT. It's a real Smalltalk VM running on the NXT, with an image being interpreted. Now it's finally available, including the VM source code. NXTalk is the outcome of Martin Beck's MSc research; Martin is a former student in our group. Behold: http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa/projects/nxtalk/ Both projects' source code is MIT licensed. They both are based on (L)GPLed software, though: PhidgetLab uses the Phidgets API from the vendor, which is under the LGPL, and NXTalk uses NXOS, which is under the GPL. We would be grateful for any suggestions for improvement - for both the projects and the respective web pages alike. Experience reports are, of course, most welcome too. Unfortunately, we cannot make the required hardware available as easily as the software. ;-) Please let us know what you think! Best, Michael -- Robert Hirschfeld Hasso-Plattner-Institut hirschfeld(a)hpi.uni-potsdam.de www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/swa

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