Hi all,
see below an interesting discussion about presentations using Etoys and a wish from Walter Bender. I think it would be very nice to have that etoys bundle, it's something teachers are looking for! And once they have started using Etoys at all, I'm sure they will start scripting soon. What do you think?
Greetings, Rita
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint? Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:51:33 -0400 From: Walter Bender walter.bender@gmail.com To: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de CC: It's An Education Project List iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org References: 4A3FE3C4.2070707@walgreens.com fd535e260906221433m5fdf8f2bhf70b7b1eb873c0d6@mail.gmail.com 8cc423ef0907020043yed034e0s68a93ce6376eaeeb@mail.gmail.com 899A823D-57BD-4923-9D23-8234201F7F0E@freudenbergs.de
I still wish there was a launch-this-project-and-we'll-have-taken-care-of-steps-1–5-below-for-you Etoys bundle kicking around that we could just ship with the Journal.
-walter
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bert Freudenbergbert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
Since this does not seem to be obvious: It's really simple to create nice presentations in Etoys, there is not even scripting involved:
- Start a fresh Etoys copy (in Strawberry, right-click the Etoys icon
and choose "start" rather than resuming the latest project)
- click "new project"
- From the "supplies" box in the toolbar, drag out a "book".
- Use the top-left button to toggle more book controls
- Use the "+" button to add pages
- Place text on a page by dragging out a Text from the "supplies"
box, resize after right-clicking by dragging the yellow handle 6. Import images either via the clipboard or directly from the Journal (using the Journal icon in the top right) 7. Add annotations using the paint tool 8. Add visual and sound effects for turning pages in the book's menu. 9. Play with the options in the book's menu (like "view pages full screen") etc.
... and of course you can place scripted objects / animations on the pages too if you like.
Also, the Etoys QuickGuides (accessible from the left-most button in the toolbar) have an entire section on Books.
- Bert -
On 02.07.2009, at 09:43, David Van Assche wrote:
A real simple alternative to powerpoint/impress that looks and smells like it, but with maybe really limited functionality would be loved by teachers everywhere, At least, all the teachers I have met rely very heavily on powerpoint in one form or another, be it integrated into other software like moodle or an LMS, or used with an interactive whiteboard/touchpad soft, or just used by itself. But normally it is used in a very limited fashion, and without much of the fancy transitions/coloring/themeing/graphing and all that stuff... IF they want something like that, it would make sense to steer them to turtleart... but there needs to be something much much simpler...
David
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Walter Bender<walter.bender@gmail.com
wrote: And we also have Turtle Art as a presentation option (it can keep to a prearranged order :)
-walter
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:04 PM, James Simmons<jim.simmons@walgreens.com
wrote: I deleted the digest that contained someone asking about putting Open Office on an XO to get alternatives to Excel and PowerPoint, but I'd like to suggest that with the features I added to View Slides over the weekend you *could* use View Slides to create and view presentations. What you could do is create individual slides using the Record Activity or one of the Paint Activities. These would create separate image files in the Journal. Then you'd fire up View Slides to add these images to a slide show, arranging them in sequence by renaming the images in the show, and deleting images that aren't needed. Then View Slides could be used to view the presentation. You can even hide the mouse cursor and view the images full screen.
It isn't Power Point, but on the other hand, it isn't Power Point.
The pictures at http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4039 tell the story. Unfortunately they tell the story out of sequence. There doesn't seem to be any way to arrange the pictures in order.
James Simmons
IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Hi, Did anyone very address the idea of a player for etoys rather than only having an install version. Is it hard to do? Is it not desirable? I think it would be welcome. Many of my students who do not have computers use the ones in our public library but they can not install software so our projects will not open. How many others are having similar experiences and how many are we turning away at the first threshold? Kathleen
---- Original message ----
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:57:20 +0200 From: Rita Freudenberg rita@freudenbergs.de Subject: [Etoys] [Fwd: Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?] To: software@squeakland.org, education@squeakland.org, OLPC Etoys etoys@lists.laptop.org
Hi all,
see below an interesting discussion about presentations using Etoys and a wish from Walter Bender. I think it would be very nice to have that etoys bundle, it's something teachers are looking for! And once they have started using Etoys at all, I'm sure they will start scripting soon. What do you think?
Greetings, Rita
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint? Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:51:33 -0400 From: Walter Bender walter.bender@gmail.com To: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de CC: It's An Education Project List iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org References: 4A3FE3C4.2070707@walgreens.com fd535e260906221433m5fdf8f2bhf70b7b1eb873c0d6@mail.gmail.com 8cc423ef0907020043yed034e0s68a93ce6376eaeeb@mail.gmail.com 899A823D-57BD-4923-9D23-8234201F7F0E@freudenbergs.de
I still wish there was a launch-this-project-and-we'll-have-taken-care-of-steps-1–5-below-for-you Etoys bundle kicking around that we could just ship with the Journal.
-walter
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bert Freudenbergbert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
Since this does not seem to be obvious: It's really simple to create nice presentations in Etoys, there is not even scripting involved:
- Start a fresh Etoys copy (in Strawberry, right-click the Etoys icon
and choose "start" rather than resuming the latest project)
- click "new project"
- From the "supplies" box in the toolbar, drag out a "book".
- Use the top-left button to toggle more book controls
- Use the "+" button to add pages
- Place text on a page by dragging out a Text from the "supplies"
box, resize after right-clicking by dragging the yellow handle 6. Import images either via the clipboard or directly from the Journal (using the Journal icon in the top right) 7. Add annotations using the paint tool 8. Add visual and sound effects for turning pages in the book's menu. 9. Play with the options in the book's menu (like "view pages full screen") etc.
... and of course you can place scripted objects / animations on the pages too if you like.
Also, the Etoys QuickGuides (accessible from the left-most button in the toolbar) have an entire section on Books.
- Bert -
On 02.07.2009, at 09:43, David Van Assche wrote:
A real simple alternative to powerpoint/impress that looks and smells like it, but with maybe really limited functionality would be loved by teachers everywhere, At least, all the teachers I have met rely very heavily on powerpoint in one form or another, be it integrated into other software like moodle or an LMS, or used with an interactive whiteboard/touchpad soft, or just used by itself. But normally it is used in a very limited fashion, and without much of the fancy transitions/coloring/themeing/graphing and all that stuff... IF they want something like that, it would make sense to steer them to turtleart... but there needs to be something much much simpler...
David
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Walter Bender<walter.bender@gmail.com
wrote: And we also have Turtle Art as a presentation option (it can keep to a prearranged order :)
-walter
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:04 PM, James Simmons<jim.simmons@walgreens.com
wrote: I deleted the digest that contained someone asking about putting Open Office on an XO to get alternatives to Excel and PowerPoint, but I'd like to suggest that with the features I added to View Slides over the weekend you *could* use View Slides to create and view presentations. What you could do is create individual slides using the Record Activity or one of the Paint Activities. These would create separate image files in the Journal. Then you'd fire up View Slides to add these images to a slide show, arranging them in sequence by renaming the images in the show, and deleting images that aren't needed. Then View Slides could be used to view the presentation. You can even hide the mouse cursor and view the images full screen.
It isn't Power Point, but on the other hand, it isn't Power Point.
The pictures at http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4039 tell the story. Unfortunately they tell the story out of sequence. There doesn't seem to be any way to arrange the pictures in order.
James Simmons
IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
-- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Etoys mailing list Etoys@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
I thought there were plans for a liveUSB version? You could use the LiveUSB version of Sugar (Sugar on a Stick) to launch Etoys in the interim.
-walter
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:04 AM, kharness@illinois.edu wrote:
Hi, Did anyone very address the idea of a player for etoys rather than only having an install version. Is it hard to do? Is it not desirable? I think it would be welcome. Many of my students who do not have computers use the ones in our public library but they can not install software so our projects will not open. How many others are having similar experiences and how many are we turning away at the first threshold? Kathleen
---- Original message ----
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:57:20 +0200 From: Rita Freudenberg rita@freudenbergs.de Subject: [Etoys] [Fwd: Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?] To: software@squeakland.org, education@squeakland.org, OLPC Etoys etoys@lists.laptop.org
Hi all,
see below an interesting discussion about presentations using Etoys and a wish from Walter Bender. I think it would be very nice to have that etoys bundle, it's something teachers are looking for! And once they have started using Etoys at all, I'm sure they will start scripting soon. What do you think?
Greetings, Rita
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint? Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:51:33 -0400 From: Walter Bender walter.bender@gmail.com To: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de CC: It's An Education Project List iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org References: 4A3FE3C4.2070707@walgreens.com fd535e260906221433m5fdf8f2bhf70b7b1eb873c0d6@mail.gmail.com 8cc423ef0907020043yed034e0s68a93ce6376eaeeb@mail.gmail.com 899A823D-57BD-4923-9D23-8234201F7F0E@freudenbergs.de
I still wish there was a launch-this-project-and-we'll-have-taken-care-of-steps-1–5-below-for-you Etoys bundle kicking around that we could just ship with the Journal.
-walter
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bert Freudenbergbert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
Since this does not seem to be obvious: It's really simple to create nice presentations in Etoys, there is not even scripting involved:
- Start a fresh Etoys copy (in Strawberry, right-click the Etoys icon
and choose "start" rather than resuming the latest project)
- click "new project"
- From the "supplies" box in the toolbar, drag out a "book".
- Use the top-left button to toggle more book controls
- Use the "+" button to add pages
- Place text on a page by dragging out a Text from the "supplies"
box, resize after right-clicking by dragging the yellow handle 6. Import images either via the clipboard or directly from the Journal (using the Journal icon in the top right) 7. Add annotations using the paint tool 8. Add visual and sound effects for turning pages in the book's menu. 9. Play with the options in the book's menu (like "view pages full screen") etc.
... and of course you can place scripted objects / animations on the pages too if you like.
Also, the Etoys QuickGuides (accessible from the left-most button in the toolbar) have an entire section on Books.
- Bert -
On 02.07.2009, at 09:43, David Van Assche wrote:
A real simple alternative to powerpoint/impress that looks and smells like it, but with maybe really limited functionality would be loved by teachers everywhere, At least, all the teachers I have met rely very heavily on powerpoint in one form or another, be it integrated into other software like moodle or an LMS, or used with an interactive whiteboard/touchpad soft, or just used by itself. But normally it is used in a very limited fashion, and without much of the fancy transitions/coloring/themeing/graphing and all that stuff... IF they want something like that, it would make sense to steer them to turtleart... but there needs to be something much much simpler...
David
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Walter Bender<walter.bender@gmail.com
wrote: And we also have Turtle Art as a presentation option (it can keep to a prearranged order :)
-walter
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:04 PM, James Simmons<jim.simmons@walgreens.com
wrote: I deleted the digest that contained someone asking about putting Open Office on an XO to get alternatives to Excel and PowerPoint, but I'd like to suggest that with the features I added to View Slides over the weekend you *could* use View Slides to create and view presentations. What you could do is create individual slides using the Record Activity or one of the Paint Activities. These would create separate image files in the Journal. Then you'd fire up View Slides to add these images to a slide show, arranging them in sequence by renaming the images in the show, and deleting images that aren't needed. Then View Slides could be used to view the presentation. You can even hide the mouse cursor and view the images full screen.
It isn't Power Point, but on the other hand, it isn't Power Point.
The pictures at http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4039 tell the story. Unfortunately they tell the story out of sequence. There doesn't seem to be any way to arrange the pictures in order.
James Simmons
IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
-- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Etoys mailing list Etoys@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
Etoys mailing list Etoys@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
Kathleen is referring to a javascript "player" in the browser. And yes that's very hard to do. No hope of having this soonish.
The USB version of Etoys is forthcoming, I prepared a beta release this week. This is not intended yet for wide-spread use, but feedback is welcome:
http://wiki.squeakland.org/display/sq/Etoys+To+Go
- Bert -
On 02.07.2009, at 17:08, Walter Bender wrote:
I thought there were plans for a liveUSB version? You could use the LiveUSB version of Sugar (Sugar on a Stick) to launch Etoys in the interim.
-walter
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:04 AM, kharness@illinois.edu wrote:
Hi, Did anyone very address the idea of a player for etoys rather than only having an install version. Is it hard to do? Is it not desirable? I think it would be welcome. Many of my students who do not have computers use the ones in our public library but they can not install software so our projects will not open. How many others are having similar experiences and how many are we turning away at the first threshold? Kathleen
---- Original message ----
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:57:20 +0200 From: Rita Freudenberg rita@freudenbergs.de Subject: [Etoys] [Fwd: Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?] To: software@squeakland.org, education@squeakland.org, OLPC Etoys <etoys@lists.laptop.org
Hi all,
see below an interesting discussion about presentations using Etoys and a wish from Walter Bender. I think it would be very nice to have that etoys bundle, it's something teachers are looking for! And once they have started using Etoys at all, I'm sure they will start scripting soon. What do you think?
Greetings, Rita
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint? Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:51:33 -0400 From: Walter Bender walter.bender@gmail.com To: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de CC: It's An Education Project List iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org References: 4A3FE3C4.2070707@walgreens.com fd535e260906221433m5fdf8f2bhf70b7b1eb873c0d6@mail.gmail.com 8cc423ef0907020043yed034e0s68a93ce6376eaeeb@mail.gmail.com 899A823D-57BD-4923-9D23-8234201F7F0E@freudenbergs.de
I still wish there was a launch-this-project-and-we'll-have-taken-care-of-steps-1–5-below- for-you Etoys bundle kicking around that we could just ship with the Journal.
-walter
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Bert Freudenberg<bert@freudenbergs.de
wrote: Since this does not seem to be obvious: It's really simple to create nice presentations in Etoys, there is not even scripting involved:
- Start a fresh Etoys copy (in Strawberry, right-click the Etoys
icon and choose "start" rather than resuming the latest project)
- click "new project"
- From the "supplies" box in the toolbar, drag out a "book".
- Use the top-left button to toggle more book controls
- Use the "+" button to add pages
- Place text on a page by dragging out a Text from the "supplies"
box, resize after right-clicking by dragging the yellow handle 6. Import images either via the clipboard or directly from the Journal (using the Journal icon in the top right) 7. Add annotations using the paint tool 8. Add visual and sound effects for turning pages in the book's menu. 9. Play with the options in the book's menu (like "view pages full screen") etc.
... and of course you can place scripted objects / animations on the pages too if you like.
Also, the Etoys QuickGuides (accessible from the left-most button in the toolbar) have an entire section on Books.
- Bert -
On 02.07.2009, at 09:43, David Van Assche wrote:
A real simple alternative to powerpoint/impress that looks and smells like it, but with maybe really limited functionality would be loved by teachers everywhere, At least, all the teachers I have met rely very heavily on powerpoint in one form or another, be it integrated into other software like moodle or an LMS, or used with an interactive whiteboard/touchpad soft, or just used by itself. But normally it is used in a very limited fashion, and without much of the fancy transitions/coloring/themeing/graphing and all that stuff... IF they want something like that, it would make sense to steer them to turtleart... but there needs to be something much much simpler...
David
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Walter Bender<walter.bender@gmail.com
wrote: And we also have Turtle Art as a presentation option (it can keep to a prearranged order :)
-walter
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:04 PM, James Simmons<jim.simmons@walgreens.com > wrote: > I deleted the digest that contained someone asking about putting > Open > Office on an XO to get alternatives to Excel and PowerPoint, > but I'd > like to suggest that with the features I added to View Slides > over > the > weekend you *could* use View Slides to create and view > presentations. > What you could do is create individual slides using the Record > Activity > or one of the Paint Activities. These would create separate > image > files > in the Journal. Then you'd fire up View Slides to add these > images to a > slide show, arranging them in sequence by renaming the images > in the > show, and deleting images that aren't needed. Then View Slides > could be > used to view the presentation. You can even hide the mouse > cursor > and > view the images full screen. > > It isn't Power Point, but on the other hand, it isn't Power > Point. > > The pictures at http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4039 > tell the story. Unfortunately they tell the story out of > sequence. > There doesn't seem to be any way to arrange the pictures in > order. > > James Simmons >
IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
-- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Etoys mailing list Etoys@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
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-- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org
etoys-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org
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Bert Freudenberg -
kharness＠illinois.edu -
Rita Freudenberg -
Walter Bender