etoys-dev November 2013

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Bug repainting morph
by Markus Schlager 28 Nov '13

28 Nov '13

Hi all, The attached Etoys-Project (done with Etoys To Go 5) contains a morph named hugo. hugo has a script using the "look like"-tile, which caused it to shrink when "restore base graphic". Since then when I choose the repaint-handle of hugo's halo, the morph does not appear in the paint area any more. Similar problems appeared also to pupils of mine. Markus

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Re: [etoys-dev] [SoaS] Etoys in Sugar was: SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100
by Bert Freudenberg 20 Nov '13

20 Nov '13

On 19.11.2013, at 17:33, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo(a)laptop.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> - The "eToys" activity (version 116) does not start properly >>>>>> then displays >>>>>> « cannot find image file: squeak, did you run 'inisqueak-m' ? » >>> >>> This was ticketed here, >>> https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4415 >> >> Ah. I even commented on that, apparently :) >> >>>>> >>>>> The eToys developers are basically unresponsive, I'm in two minds >>>>> whether we even bother to ship it because they can't be bothered doing >>>>> things like updating to the latest sugar by migrating away from >>>>> sugar-presence-service/ which was deprecated a long time ago. >> >> This is a rather non-trivial change to Etoys, whereas keeping the sugar-presence-service emulation around is pretty trivial. >> >> Yes it would be good to do it, no I have not had the time. Nor someone else. > > You've had 3 odd years. Yes. It never got to the top of my priority list. Mea culpa. >> But made Etoys work even if the emulated presence service is not around. So everything except collaborating should work fine. > > How? what release, how was it communicated? Etoys 5. We last talked about it on the SoaS list on June 7 2012. I wrote in reply to Manuel Kaufmann: "With regard to sharing, the only difference between Etoys 4 and Etoys 5 is that Etoys 5 will still work if the presence service fails, whereas Etoys 4 showed an error on startup." >>>> But this looks like a different problem, right? >> >> Yes. > > Care to elaborate? The startup error "cannot find image file: squeak" is not related to the presence service at all, because it happens before Etoys is even started up. So, "yes, this looks like a different problem". But without further information I can not elaborate, unfortunately. - Bert -

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Etoys in Sugar was: SoaS v10 testing and a few minor issues with 0.100
by Frederick Grose 19 Nov '13

19 Nov '13

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo(a)laptop.org> > wrote: > >> > > >> > - The "eToys" activity (version 116) does not start properly > >> > then displays > >> > « cannot find image file: squeak, did you run 'inisqueak-m' ? » > This was ticketed here, https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4415 > >> > >> The eToys developers are basically unresponsive, I'm in two minds > >> whether we even bother to ship it because they can't be bothered doing > >> things like updating to the latest sugar by migrating away from > >> sugar-presence-service/ which was deprecated a long time ago. > >> > > > > > > But this looks like a different problem, right? > > TBH I have no idea, I've not had the time to look closely at eToys > because a lack of response from the maintainer or anyone bothering to > test or improve it makes me prioritise things that are easy for me to > fix where I actually get responses. Last release I removed it from the > main wheel because it wasn't a decent experience. > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > SoaS mailing list > SoaS(a)lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas >

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Re: [etoys-dev] etoys-dev Digest, Vol 87, Issue 1
by Pato Acevedo 18 Nov '13

18 Nov '13

Hi Charles: > > First, let me say how I impressed with the various developement teams > involved (RPi, Squeak, eToys, Scratch). You all are doing amazing work! > > I have been googling and am attempting to learn how to boot the Raspberry > Pi directly into eToys just like the option for booting directly into > Scratch. Surely there is a relatively easy way to do this, but since eToys > is not yet deployed on the stock Raspbian image, it does not yet look like > it has the official support on the RPi install team. I am very thankful > that installing eToys is as easy as "apt-get install etoys" - that is so > totally awesome! Now, how to boot directly into eToys? May be this link help: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7192 Patricio > > As an aside, any idea why eToys is filed under "non-free" extensions for > RPi? > > -- > Charles Schultz >

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Raspberry Pi boot directly to eToys?
by Charles Schultz 17 Nov '13

17 Nov '13

Good day, First, let me say how I impressed with the various developement teams involved (RPi, Squeak, eToys, Scratch). You all are doing amazing work! I have been googling and am attempting to learn how to boot the Raspberry Pi directly into eToys just like the option for booting directly into Scratch. Surely there is a relatively easy way to do this, but since eToys is not yet deployed on the stock Raspbian image, it does not yet look like it has the official support on the RPi install team. I am very thankful that installing eToys is as easy as "apt-get install etoys" - that is so totally awesome! Now, how to boot directly into eToys? As an aside, any idea why eToys is filed under "non-free" extensions for RPi? -- Charles Schultz

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