On 31.05.2011, at 20:12, karl ramberg wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 31.05.2011, at 18:59, karl ramberg wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On 30.05.2011, at 21:26, karl ramberg wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
Also, the user interface of the movie player comes up in Swedish. It does not switch to the current language.
To make the translation of the movie player seems to be a little out of scoop for this release. As far as I can see translation update for instances must be implemented for quite a few tools. As usual, I'm not sure how to do it ;-)
Karl
Okay, the workaround for now would be to close the movie morph, switch to English locale, open the movie to get the English GUI, save project. The example projects are not translated to other languages yet, anyway.
I can only come up with ugly code to get the file to open across saves and platforms. Like Smalltalk current imageFile... stuff I think we must let this get some more thinking and testing before releasing
Karl
I guess so. I also heard of that problem in Uruguay. What they want is put the video or mp3 in the same directory as the project and have it work. Not quite sure if we actually remember the path a project was loaded from. It's even harder under Sugar of course, but making it work on regular machines shouldn't be that hard.
- Bert -
Squeaklet directory would be quite easy to look in.
Yes, but useless, because it's only for temp files. If we need to guess then we should look at the default directory.
We could just do something like the following I have been testing:
openHardCodedFile | fileName fd hardWay | fd := FileDirectory default pathNameDelimiter. fileName := mpegFile fileName copyAfterLast: fd.
This won't work. Windows used $, Linux and Mac $/. I guess we need to try both. Perhaps count the number of \ and / and use the one wit more occurrences ;)
self openFileNamed: mpegFile fileName. " test if old file name works" mpegFile ifNil: [fd := FileDirectory default pathNameDelimiter. hardWay := SmalltalkImage current imageName. "or Project squeakletDirectory" hardWay := hardWay copyUpToLast: fd.
You mean "Smalltalk imagePath" right? ;)
hardWay := hardWay , fd asString , 'ExampleEtoys' , fd asString , fileName.
See #fromExampleEtoys: for how the examples are loaded.
self openFileNamed: hardWay. self openMPEGFile. mpegFile ifNil: [^"ugh"]].Karl
We might also try the current Project's "lastDirectory" which is supposed to be set to the directory it was loaded from. Not sure how well that works in general. But for the particles dye project it looks promising:
Project current instVarNamed: #lastDirectory
==> UnixFileDirectory on '/Applications/Etoys 4.1.app/Contents/Resources/ExampleEtoys'
- Bert -
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.dewrote:
On 31.05.2011, at 20:12, karl ramberg wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.dewrote:
On 31.05.2011, at 18:59, karl ramberg wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.dewrote:
On 30.05.2011, at 21:26, karl ramberg wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Bert Freudenberg <
bert@freudenbergs.de> wrote:
Also, the user interface of the movie player comes up in Swedish. It
does not switch to the current language.
To make the translation of the movie player seems to be a little out of
scoop for this release.
As far as I can see translation update for instances must be
implemented for quite a few tools.
As usual, I'm not sure how to do it ;-)
Karl
Okay, the workaround for now would be to close the movie morph, switch to English locale, open the movie to get the English GUI, save project. The example projects are not translated to other languages yet, anyway.
I can only come up with ugly code to get the file to open across saves and platforms. Like Smalltalk current imageFile... stuff I think we must let this get some more thinking and testing before releasing
Karl
I guess so. I also heard of that problem in Uruguay. What they want is put the video or mp3 in the same directory as the project and have it work. Not quite sure if we actually remember the path a project was loaded from. It's even harder under Sugar of course, but making it work on regular machines shouldn't be that hard.
- Bert -
Squeaklet directory would be quite easy to look in.
Yes, but useless, because it's only for temp files. If we need to guess then we should look at the default directory.
We could just do something like the following I have been testing:
openHardCodedFile | fileName fd hardWay | fd := FileDirectory default pathNameDelimiter. fileName := mpegFile fileName copyAfterLast: fd.
This won't work. Windows used $, Linux and Mac $/. I guess we need to try both. Perhaps count the number of \ and / and use the one wit more occurrences ;)
self openFileNamed: mpegFile fileName. " test if old file name works" mpegFile ifNil: [fd := FileDirectory default pathNameDelimiter. hardWay := SmalltalkImage current imageName. "or Project squeakletDirectory" hardWay := hardWay copyUpToLast: fd.
You mean "Smalltalk imagePath" right? ;)
hardWay := hardWay , fd asString , 'ExampleEtoys' , fd asString , fileName.
See #fromExampleEtoys: for how the examples are loaded.
self openFileNamed: hardWay. self openMPEGFile. mpegFile ifNil: [^"ugh"]].
Karl
We might also try the current Project's "lastDirectory" which is supposed to be set to the directory it was loaded from. Not sure how well that works in general. But for the particles dye project it looks promising:
Project current instVarNamed: #lastDirectory
==> UnixFileDirectory on '/Applications/Etoys 4.1.app/Contents/Resources/ExampleEtoys'
Thanks for feedback.
So this could work:
openStoredFileNamed | fullFileName fileName slash newFullFileName | fullFileName := mpegFile fileName. (fullFileName occurrencesOf: $/) > (fullFileName occurrencesOf: $) ifTrue:[ slash := $/] ifFalse:[ slash := $]. fileName := fullFileName copyAfterLast: slash. newFullFileName := FileDirectory on: (Smalltalk imagePath, FileDirectory slash, 'ExampleEtoys', FileDirectory slash, fileName). self openFileNamed: newFullFileName
Karl
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.dewrote:
On 31.05.2011, at 20:12, karl ramberg wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.dewrote:
On 31.05.2011, at 18:59, karl ramberg wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.dewrote:
On 30.05.2011, at 21:26, karl ramberg wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Bert Freudenberg <
bert@freudenbergs.de> wrote:
Also, the user interface of the movie player comes up in Swedish. It
does not switch to the current language.
To make the translation of the movie player seems to be a little out of
scoop for this release.
As far as I can see translation update for instances must be
implemented for quite a few tools.
As usual, I'm not sure how to do it ;-)
Karl
Okay, the workaround for now would be to close the movie morph, switch to English locale, open the movie to get the English GUI, save project. The example projects are not translated to other languages yet, anyway.
I can only come up with ugly code to get the file to open across saves and platforms. Like Smalltalk current imageFile... stuff I think we must let this get some more thinking and testing before releasing
Karl
I guess so. I also heard of that problem in Uruguay. What they want is put the video or mp3 in the same directory as the project and have it work. Not quite sure if we actually remember the path a project was loaded from. It's even harder under Sugar of course, but making it work on regular machines shouldn't be that hard.
- Bert -
Squeaklet directory would be quite easy to look in.
Yes, but useless, because it's only for temp files. If we need to guess then we should look at the default directory.
We could just do something like the following I have been testing:
openHardCodedFile | fileName fd hardWay | fd := FileDirectory default pathNameDelimiter. fileName := mpegFile fileName copyAfterLast: fd.
This won't work. Windows used $, Linux and Mac $/. I guess we need to try both. Perhaps count the number of \ and / and use the one wit more occurrences ;)
self openFileNamed: mpegFile fileName. " test if old file name works" mpegFile ifNil: [fd := FileDirectory default pathNameDelimiter. hardWay := SmalltalkImage current imageName. "or Project squeakletDirectory" hardWay := hardWay copyUpToLast: fd.
You mean "Smalltalk imagePath" right? ;)
hardWay := hardWay , fd asString , 'ExampleEtoys' , fd asString , fileName.
See #fromExampleEtoys: for how the examples are loaded.
self openFileNamed: hardWay. self openMPEGFile. mpegFile ifNil: [^"ugh"]].
Karl
We might also try the current Project's "lastDirectory" which is supposed to be set to the directory it was loaded from. Not sure how well that works in general. But for the particles dye project it looks promising:
Project current instVarNamed: #lastDirectory
==> UnixFileDirectory on '/Applications/Etoys 4.1.app/Contents/Resources/ExampleEtoys'
- Bert -
etoys-dev mailing list etoys-dev@squeakland.org http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev
External videos will be a problem when publishing projects
I'm not sure how to deal with that. We could internalize the the film like we do with sound. I'm not sure if there are issues with primitives if we do that
Karl
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:59 PM, karl ramberg karlramberg@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.dewrote:
On 31.05.2011, at 20:12, karl ramberg wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.dewrote:
On 31.05.2011, at 18:59, karl ramberg wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert@freudenbergs.de
wrote:
On 30.05.2011, at 21:26, karl ramberg wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Bert Freudenberg <
bert@freudenbergs.de> wrote:
Also, the user interface of the movie player comes up in Swedish. It
does not switch to the current language.
To make the translation of the movie player seems to be a little out
of scoop for this release.
As far as I can see translation update for instances must be
implemented for quite a few tools.
As usual, I'm not sure how to do it ;-)
Karl
Okay, the workaround for now would be to close the movie morph, switch to English locale, open the movie to get the English GUI, save project. The example projects are not translated to other languages yet, anyway.
I can only come up with ugly code to get the file to open across saves and platforms. Like Smalltalk current imageFile... stuff I think we must let this get some more thinking and testing before releasing
Karl
I guess so. I also heard of that problem in Uruguay. What they want is put the video or mp3 in the same directory as the project and have it work. Not quite sure if we actually remember the path a project was loaded from. It's even harder under Sugar of course, but making it work on regular machines shouldn't be that hard.
- Bert -
Squeaklet directory would be quite easy to look in.
Yes, but useless, because it's only for temp files. If we need to guess then we should look at the default directory.
We could just do something like the following I have been testing:
openHardCodedFile | fileName fd hardWay | fd := FileDirectory default pathNameDelimiter. fileName := mpegFile fileName copyAfterLast: fd.
This won't work. Windows used $, Linux and Mac $/. I guess we need to try both. Perhaps count the number of \ and / and use the one wit more occurrences ;)
self openFileNamed: mpegFile fileName. " test if old file name works" mpegFile ifNil: [fd := FileDirectory default pathNameDelimiter. hardWay := SmalltalkImage current imageName. "or Project squeakletDirectory" hardWay := hardWay copyUpToLast: fd.
You mean "Smalltalk imagePath" right? ;)
hardWay := hardWay , fd asString , 'ExampleEtoys' , fd asString , fileName.
See #fromExampleEtoys: for how the examples are loaded.
self openFileNamed: hardWay. self openMPEGFile. mpegFile ifNil: [^"ugh"]].
Karl
We might also try the current Project's "lastDirectory" which is supposed to be set to the directory it was loaded from. Not sure how well that works in general. But for the particles dye project it looks promising:
Project current instVarNamed: #lastDirectory
==> UnixFileDirectory on '/Applications/Etoys 4.1.app/Contents/Resources/ExampleEtoys'
- Bert -
etoys-dev mailing list etoys-dev@squeakland.org http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev
External videos will be a problem when publishing projects
I'm not sure how to deal with that. We could internalize the the film like we do with sound. I'm not sure if there are issues with primitives if we do that
Karl
Croquet had a buffered mpeg player we maybe could use.
But I get a primitive failed testing it.
I'll look for a plugin that works...
MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/KidsFirst' user: '' password: ''
Karl
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:59 PM, karl ramberg karlramberg@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:59 PM, karl ramberg karlramberg@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.dewrote:
On 31.05.2011, at 20:12, karl ramberg wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.dewrote:
On 31.05.2011, at 18:59, karl ramberg wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Bert Freudenberg < bert@freudenbergs.de> wrote:
On 30.05.2011, at 21:26, karl ramberg wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Bert Freudenberg <
bert@freudenbergs.de> wrote:
> Also, the user interface of the movie player comes up in Swedish. It
does not switch to the current language.
To make the translation of the movie player seems to be a little out
of scoop for this release.
As far as I can see translation update for instances must be
implemented for quite a few tools.
As usual, I'm not sure how to do it ;-)
Karl
Okay, the workaround for now would be to close the movie morph, switch to English locale, open the movie to get the English GUI, save project. The example projects are not translated to other languages yet, anyway.
I can only come up with ugly code to get the file to open across saves and platforms. Like Smalltalk current imageFile... stuff I think we must let this get some more thinking and testing before releasing
Karl
I guess so. I also heard of that problem in Uruguay. What they want is put the video or mp3 in the same directory as the project and have it work. Not quite sure if we actually remember the path a project was loaded from. It's even harder under Sugar of course, but making it work on regular machines shouldn't be that hard.
- Bert -
Squeaklet directory would be quite easy to look in.
Yes, but useless, because it's only for temp files. If we need to guess then we should look at the default directory.
We could just do something like the following I have been testing:
openHardCodedFile | fileName fd hardWay | fd := FileDirectory default pathNameDelimiter. fileName := mpegFile fileName copyAfterLast: fd.
This won't work. Windows used $, Linux and Mac $/. I guess we need to try both. Perhaps count the number of \ and / and use the one wit more occurrences ;)
self openFileNamed: mpegFile fileName. " test if old file name works" mpegFile ifNil: [fd := FileDirectory default pathNameDelimiter. hardWay := SmalltalkImage current imageName. "or Project squeakletDirectory" hardWay := hardWay copyUpToLast: fd.
You mean "Smalltalk imagePath" right? ;)
hardWay := hardWay , fd asString , 'ExampleEtoys' , fd asString , fileName.
See #fromExampleEtoys: for how the examples are loaded.
self openFileNamed: hardWay. self openMPEGFile. mpegFile ifNil: [^"ugh"]].
Karl
We might also try the current Project's "lastDirectory" which is supposed to be set to the directory it was loaded from. Not sure how well that works in general. But for the particles dye project it looks promising:
Project current instVarNamed: #lastDirectory
==> UnixFileDirectory on '/Applications/Etoys 4.1.app/Contents/Resources/ExampleEtoys'
- Bert -
etoys-dev mailing list etoys-dev@squeakland.org http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev
External videos will be a problem when publishing projects
I'm not sure how to deal with that. We could internalize the the film like we do with sound. I'm not sure if there are issues with primitives if we do that
Karl
Croquet had a buffered mpeg player we maybe could use.
But I get a primitive failed testing it.
I'll look for a plugin that works...
MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/KidsFirst' user: ''
password: ''Karl
Using a Croquet VM made 7 february 2007 I can load buffered mpeg videos in Etoys. There must be some changes to the MPEG plugin not incorporated into the one in Etoys.
With buffered videos I think we could publish videos as part of a project.
Karl
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 07:23:00PM +0200, karl ramberg wrote:
Using a Croquet VM made ???7 ???february ???2007 I can load buffered mpeg videos in Etoys. There must be some changes to the MPEG plugin not incorporated into the one in Etoys.
With buffered videos I think we could publish videos as part of a project.
Karl,
There is a bug in the MPEG plugin in the current release of the standard Unix VM that will require a new VM build to correct. Details here:
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7600
Is this the problem you are seeing? If so I'll see if I can encourage a fresh Unix VM build to happen.
Dave
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:54 PM, David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 07:23:00PM +0200, karl ramberg wrote:
Using a Croquet VM made ???7 ???february ???2007 I can load buffered
mpeg videos
in Etoys. There must be some changes to the MPEG plugin not incorporated into the
one
in Etoys.
With buffered videos I think we could publish videos as part of a
project.
Karl,
There is a bug in the MPEG plugin in the current release of the standard Unix VM that will require a new VM build to correct. Details here:
http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7600
Is this the problem you are seeing? If so I'll see if I can encourage a fresh Unix VM build to happen.
Dave
I have only used Windows 7 and Etoys.
Karl
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