Hi all,
Korakurider and I built an update to Etoys 4.1. Please test the installers before we announce it on squeakland:
http://etoys.squeak.org/download/4.1/
Change log:
4.1.2390 (13 Oct 2010) * bug fix release 4.1.1 * updated translations: de, ta, es, kn * fix soundReverb (SQ-852, SQ-853) * correct problem stopping sounds (SQ-845) * use composition input for bn, gu, hi, kn, ml, mr, ta, te, sa (SQ-850) * fix error when switching to Vietnamese * fix double click to launch project on windows * added README for Etoys-To-Go * on Linux, prefer PulseAudio driver over OSS
- Bert -
On Friday 15 Oct 2010 10:44:15 am Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Korakurider and I built an update to Etoys 4.1. Please test the installers before we announce it on squeakland:
I got an error when I tried to run this VM on Ubuntu Hardy (8.04)
Could not load library: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found
8.04 ships with libc6-2.6.1 while the VM was compiled with a toolchain that requires libc6-2.7 or newer.
BTW, schools continue to be on 8.04 LTS because the machines have only 256MB RAM and will crawl on 10.04 LTS.
Subbu
On Friday 15 Oct 2010 11:30:06 am K. K. Subramaniam wrote:
I got an error when I tried to run this VM on Ubuntu Hardy (8.04)
Could not load library: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found
8.04 ships with libc6-2.6.1 while the VM was compiled with a toolchain that requires libc6-2.7 or newer.
BTW, schools continue to be on 8.04 LTS because the machines have only 256MB RAM and will crawl on 10.04 LTS.
A correction. Schools are on 7.10 not 8.04. 8.04 crawled on systems with 256MB RAM.
Subbu
On 14.10.2010, at 23:00, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:
On Friday 15 Oct 2010 10:44:15 am Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Korakurider and I built an update to Etoys 4.1. Please test the installers before we announce it on squeakland:
I got an error when I tried to run this VM on Ubuntu Hardy (8.04)
Could not load library: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found
8.04 ships with libc6-2.6.1 while the VM was compiled with a toolchain that requires libc6-2.7 or newer.
BTW, schools continue to be on 8.04 LTS because the machines have only 256MB RAM and will crawl on 10.04 LTS.
Subbu
The Linux VM did not change since 4.1. But maybe you can compile a better one?
- Bert -
On Friday 15 Oct 2010 11:39:15 am Bert Freudenberg wrote:
The Linux VM did not change since 4.1. But maybe you can compile a better one?
4.1 is affected too. The fix is to build the VM in a Gutsy virtual machine.
I can do that for the schools here if it becomes necessary. I posted my findings because XOs have 256MB RAMs and they may be affected by the change too. So will people using their Etoys-To-Go on borrowed machines or in XO virtual machines.
When we upgraded 256MB RAM systems to Kubuntu Hardy (linux kernel 2.6.24?), teachers and students experienced intermittent slowdowns and freezes lasting 5-6 seconds - extremely frustrating. It was traced to memory pressure. The working set shot up from around 130-150MB to over 200MB in Hardy. Kernel did not behave gracefully under such conditions. Google count for "ubuntu hardy slow" is over 48 million! XO may escape the curse if the defect turns out to be in scsi disk i/o modules.
Luckily for us, Dell Foundation donated 1GB notebooks to the schools. So we consolidated two 256MB machines to a single 512MB machine in some of the schools.
Should we take this discussion to vm-dev?
Subbu
On 15.10.2010, at 01:01, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:
On Friday 15 Oct 2010 11:39:15 am Bert Freudenberg wrote:
The Linux VM did not change since 4.1. But maybe you can compile a better one?
4.1 is affected too. The fix is to build the VM in a Gutsy virtual machine.
I can do that for the schools here if it becomes necessary. I posted my findings because XOs have 256MB RAMs and they may be affected by the change too. So will people using their Etoys-To-Go on borrowed machines or in XO virtual machines.
Well hopefully the distro's own VM will work fine? We only need to worry about Etoys-To-Go.
When we upgraded 256MB RAM systems to Kubuntu Hardy (linux kernel 2.6.24?), teachers and students experienced intermittent slowdowns and freezes lasting 5-6 seconds - extremely frustrating. It was traced to memory pressure. The working set shot up from around 130-150MB to over 200MB in Hardy. Kernel did not behave gracefully under such conditions. Google count for "ubuntu hardy slow" is over 48 million! XO may escape the curse if the defect turns out to be in scsi disk i/o modules.
Do you mean slow-downs in Etoys or in general?
Luckily for us, Dell Foundation donated 1GB notebooks to the schools. So we consolidated two 256MB machines to a single 512MB machine in some of the schools.
Should we take this discussion to vm-dev?
Subbu
Sure.
- Bert -
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