Hi,
There are a few confusing things about Bookmorph that I wanted to mention (the first for a long time). Neither of them are bugs, so I'll try to be brief:
1. This was very confusing to me when I first used the Bookmorph years ago. The page controls (> < etc) are way too small, for first time user the Bookmorph looks like an empty page without any way to move around. (I know there is baloon popus on the controls, but I remember I did not put mouse over them, as they seemed insignificant) Once user knows the little ants are controls it's good, but I would really like to have the page controls very large and stand out, perhaps ellipses with color background, because there seems lots of space across. There seems enough space even without making the dark ribbon on top taller. (I think on the small OLPC screen the controls must be almost unnoticable.)
2. Another confusing thing is that the only way to move to book around is to bring the hallos. That by itself is ok, with two comments: - All other non-trivial object presentations, (not sure how to express it, so by example) such as "Sound" "Movie Player", "All Scripts" can be picked up by left-clicking (red) somewhere in the non-input area. The BookMorph cannot, only by invoking the halo. It would be nice to pick it up by left-clicking on the darker control ribbon on top. - Also, unlike other morphs that are a composition, if user first right-clicks (yellow) on the dark "ribbon" with the controls, a halo is brought on it (AllignmentMorph), not on the outermost book frame.
Just wanted to mention this, Milan
On 2006 October 19 00:36, Milan Zimmermann wrote:
Hi,
There are a few confusing things about Bookmorph that I wanted to mention (the first for a long time). Neither of them are bugs, so I'll try to be brief:
I forgot #3, bringing up the book menu by clicking on the middle "." control, and then "find", the text runs outside the find window bounds,
Milan
- This was very confusing to me when I first used the Bookmorph years ago.
The page controls (> < etc) are way too small, for first time user the Bookmorph looks like an empty page without any way to move around. (I know there is baloon popus on the controls, but I remember I did not put mouse over them, as they seemed insignificant) Once user knows the little ants are controls it's good, but I would really like to have the page controls very large and stand out, perhaps ellipses with color background, because there seems lots of space across. There seems enough space even without making the dark ribbon on top taller. (I think on the small OLPC screen the controls must be almost unnoticable.)
- Another confusing thing is that the only way to move to book around is
to bring the hallos. That by itself is ok, with two comments:
- All other non-trivial object presentations, (not sure how to express it,
so by example) such as "Sound" "Movie Player", "All Scripts" can be picked up by left-clicking (red) somewhere in the non-input area. The BookMorph cannot, only by invoking the halo. It would be nice to pick it up by left-clicking on the darker control ribbon on top.
- Also, unlike other morphs that are a composition, if user first
right-clicks (yellow) on the dark "ribbon" with the controls, a halo is brought on it (AllignmentMorph), not on the outermost book frame.
Just wanted to mention this, Milan _______________________________________________ Etoys mailing list Etoys@laptop.org http://mailman.laptop.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys
Milan,
There are a few confusing things about Bookmorph that I wanted to mention (the first for a long time). Neither of them are bugs, so I'll try to be brief:
I forgot #3, bringing up the book menu by clicking on the middle "." control, and then "find", the text runs outside the find window bounds,
Thank you for these reports. We didn't get around fixing all places where "small fonts" are used, and the menu of BookMorph is one of them. Understandable buttons would be good.
Picking up a Book is an issue. Enable dragging on the title of a book would be good. Also, the gap between the title and edge should be harmless.
FillInTheBlank (that is used for "find...") was waiting some design change so that it resembles other green widgets such as viewer, scriptor, project saving/loading dialogs.
All of your points are good ones. After this week, we open up more changes.
Thank you!
-- Yoshiki
Yoshiki, Takashi,
Thanks for responding. Let me know if there are specific areas you would like to test or help with; in the meantime I will play some more this weekend.
Milan
On 2006 October 19 01:12, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
Milan,
There are a few confusing things about Bookmorph that I wanted to mention (the first for a long time). Neither of them are bugs, so I'll try to be brief:
I forgot #3, bringing up the book menu by clicking on the middle "." control, and then "find", the text runs outside the find window bounds,
Thank you for these reports. We didn't get around fixing all places where "small fonts" are used, and the menu of BookMorph is one of them. Understandable buttons would be good.
Picking up a Book is an issue. Enable dragging on the title of a book would be good. Also, the gap between the title and edge should be harmless.
FillInTheBlank (that is used for "find...") was waiting some design change so that it resembles other green widgets such as viewer, scriptor, project saving/loading dialogs.
All of your points are good ones. After this week, we open up more changes.
Thank you!
-- Yoshiki _______________________________________________ Etoys mailing list Etoys@laptop.org http://mailman.laptop.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys
Hi Milan,
- Another confusing thing is that the only way to move to book around is to
bring the hallos. That by itself is ok, with two comments:
- All other non-trivial object presentations, (not sure how to express it, so
by example) such as "Sound" "Movie Player", "All Scripts" can be picked up by left-clicking (red) somewhere in the non-input area. The BookMorph cannot, only by invoking the halo. It would be nice to pick it up by left-clicking on
Because a book is used like as multiple play field. I don't think it is very useful if it can be picked up easily though, darker controls area seems to be a good place to pick up.
the darker control ribbon on top.
- Also, unlike other morphs that are a composition, if user first
right-clicks (yellow) on the dark "ribbon" with the controls, a halo is brought on it (AllignmentMorph), not on the outermost book frame.
Yes, actually it happens only on OLPC image. This is a side effect of another improvement that you can bring up a halo for inner object on a page directly. This feature is very useful to use a book. But I agree this behavior is a bug on controls.
Thank you for mentioning it.
Cheers, - Takashi
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