Hi all,
this is not a new problem, but still unresolved. When I open an etoys project with the XO image that has been developed with an older etoys version, the green navigation bar on the top of the project will most likely hide parts of my project. That is highly annoying, especially for first time users of etoys, who are browsing through existing projects on a website. There are so many wonderful projects out there! We will show more of them on the squeakland website, but we want an exciting experience for the users. So I would ask you what we could do to solve this problem. Maybe, when an older project is detected, the green navigation bar will disappear and the orange flap on the bottom will be shown? The would not have a consisting look of the projects, but that is due to the different versions, we could communicate that, but at least the projects could be used. To just move the world down 100 pixels would bring problems with scripts using fixed values for the y-axis, but maybe there is another solution? What do you think? I hope for your suggestions so that we can populate the squeakland site with lots of great projects!
Best Regards, Rita
Another thought is to simply translate the origin for older projects .... if project was created by a pre-XO etoys, then y-origin = y-origin - 100.
Saving such a project would promote it to "new Etoys mode", which presumably could be made obvious to the person saving, hence they could move stuff around then.
If this translation isn't possible, I'd settle for a closed "toolbar" flap up top in old etoys projects, providing "scale to fit" is turned on by default.
The important point is to consider "old Etoys project" users as essentially read-only users that are viewing only one project. We could even force this for the browser plugin (hence no need for a toolbar).
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On Dec 16, 2008, at 7:07 AM, Rita Freudenberg wrote:
Hi all,
this is not a new problem, but still unresolved. When I open an etoys project with the XO image that has been developed with an older etoys version, the green navigation bar on the top of the project will most likely hide parts of my project. That is highly annoying, especially for first time users of etoys, who are browsing through existing projects on a website. There are so many wonderful projects out there! We will show more of them on the squeakland website, but we want an exciting experience for the users. So I would ask you what we could do to solve this problem. Maybe, when an older project is detected, the green navigation bar will disappear and the orange flap on the bottom will be shown? The would not have a consisting look of the projects, but that is due to the different versions, we could communicate that, but at least the projects could be used. To just move the world down 100 pixels would bring problems with scripts using fixed values for the y-axis, but maybe there is another solution? What do you think? I hope for your suggestions so that we can populate the squeakland site with lots of great projects!
Best Regards, Rita
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