Hello everybody,
This is Marta from Porto Alegre - Brazil.
It is time to continue to plan and decide things about Squeakfest 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and we are enthusiastic to hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th ( Thursday to Saturday). Another International Conference about IT for Ed - WCCE -world conference in computers for education is going to take place near Porto Alegre in the following week - July 27th to 31st. We thought that some of the people coming for Squeakfest would get interested in attending WCCE and vice versa.
Please visit their website - http://www.wcce2009.org www.wcce2009.org. I think this conference is very relevant to our community. It is still possible to submit papers if you are interested! The deadline is December 31st.
The Squeakfest would be a gathering for teachers, educators and school coordinators -- a time for Etoy fun and a general get together. We will certainly plan for the participation of some researchers and students as well, but the goal of the conference would be for participants to share how they are using Etoys, or plan to use it, share ideas, experiences, material and strengthen Etoy community bonds. We would also welcome teachers and reps from OLPC schools from Latin America and the Caribbean and if possible, from other countries.
Wouldnt it be awesome?!
Children from Luciana de Abreu School would certainly attend, present their Etoy projects and, as they are used to doing at conferences, take pictures and interview you guys with their XOs!
What do you think about it?
Let me know your ideas
Is the time of the year good for you?
Do you know this WCCE? ( Ive never hear about it before! Isnt it a huge coincidence?! We have been considering Squeakfest 2009 in Porto Alegre since Jan, and then this WCCE is going to be hold in here too?! )
Well enough questions for just one email!!!!
I hope to hear from you during the weekend!
All the best,
Marta Voelcker
Marta Voelcker wrote:
[Squeakfest 2009 in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th] [IT for Ed - WCCE near Porto Alegre July 27th to 31st]
This sounds like a great plan, but don't forget that this will make it also close to FISL, to be held in Porto Alegre as well on June 24 to 27 (Randal Schwartz wrote 25 to 28 in his blog) and which is supposed to have a three day Smalltalk track organized by Randal. I hope there will also be several OLPC related activities at FISL 2009 like there were this year.
The problem is that nearly a month is too close for two trips down there but too far away for a single trip for both events. Unfortunately I don't have any good suggestions. For locals, of course, it will be great!
-- Jecel
"Marta" == Marta Voelcker marta@pensamentodigital.org.br writes:
Marta> It is time to continue to plan and decide things about Squeakfest Marta> 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and we are enthusiastic to Marta> hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th ( Thursday to Marta> Saturday). Another International Conference about IT for Ed - WCCE Marta> -world conference in computers for education is going to take place Marta> near Porto Alegre in the following week - July 27th to 31st. We Marta> thought that some of the people coming for Squeakfest would get Marta> interested in attending WCCE and vice versa.
Please also note the addition of an entire 3-day Smalltalk Mini-Conf within FISL 10, a mere three weeks earlier within the same city! How much smalltalking can Porto Alegre handle? :)
Randal, Jecel and all,
June is also possible, but, I was thinking how Smalltalk Conference and how FISL atmosphere relate to the Squeakfest that I had in mind (similar to Chicago 2007)...
I have limited experience, but the way I see things, the currently biggest challenge for E-toys growth is not on its code, is not related to software, but to teachers and schools reps. It is related to communicating what for, and how to, use it inside schools.
In this context, making a metaphor with sports, let's say... with NBA - I see the developers/programmers as the wise and experienced coaches, and I see the teachers as the players. They are those who score, who make it happen inside the classroom - I would like to see them becoming the stars, shining in this context!
The name Squeakfest made history already, and so we plan to keep it, but in fact, the idea is not about squeak-the programming language- the idea is gathering together to share experience and plans about E-toys.
Talking about e-toys I am particularly motivated about 2009 - the landscape had never been so proper to make it growth. Taking growth as explained by
David Cavallo's in his paper - Models of growth towards fundamental change in learning environments - ... as the terms replication and scaling are themselves problematic and misleading. I see 2009 proper for growth because OLPC has already delivered XOs in schools in many countries; technology price had go down also in developing countries But schools will need initiated teachers, teachers active in e-toys community, to make it happen.
Maybe, relating Squeakfest with a big software conferences might scare teachers
In the other hand, making Squeakfest close to an IT for Education conference (WCCE) is probably going to increase attendance of teachers and people from education area.
Let me know your thoughts,
Marta
-----Mensagem original----- De: Randal L. Schwartz [mailto:merlyn@stonehenge.com] Enviada em: sábado, 22 de novembro de 2008 10:42 Para: Marta Voelcker Cc: squeakland@squeakland.org; etoys@lists.laptop.org; 'Susana Seidel'; Edson Lindner; 'Daniela Hoffmann'; decio@pensamentodigital.org.br; Léa Fagundes - UFRGS (Léa Fagundes - UFRGS); 'bruno sperb'; 'Mônica Estrázulas' Assunto: Re: [Squeakland] Squeakfest 2009
"Marta" == Marta Voelcker marta@pensamentodigital.org.br writes:
Marta> It is time to continue to plan and decide things about Squeakfest
Marta> 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and we are enthusiastic to
Marta> hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th ( Thursday to
Marta> Saturday). Another International Conference about IT for Ed - WCCE
Marta> -world conference in computers for education is going to take place
Marta> near Porto Alegre in the following week - July 27th to 31st. We
Marta> thought that some of the people coming for Squeakfest would get
Marta> interested in attending WCCE and vice versa.
Please also note the addition of an entire 3-day Smalltalk Mini-Conf within
FISL 10, a mere three weeks earlier within the same city! How much
smalltalking can Porto Alegre handle? :)
Am 23.11.2008 um 06:11 schrieb Marta Voelcker:
Randal, Jecel and all,
June is also possible, but, I was thinking how Smalltalk Conference and how FISL atmosphere relate to the Squeakfest that I had in mind (similar to Chicago 2007)...
I have limited experience, but the way I see things, the currently biggest challenge for E-toys growth is not on its code, is not related to software, but to teachers and schools reps. It is related to communicating what for, and how to, use it inside schools.
In this context, making a metaphor with sports, let's say... with NBA - I see the developers/programmers as the wise and experienced coaches, and I see the teachers as the players. They are those who score, who make it happen inside the classroom - I would like to see them becoming the stars, shining in this context!
The name Squeakfest made history already, and so we plan to keep it, but in fact, the idea is not about squeak-the programming language- the idea is gathering together to share experience and plans about E-toys.
Talking about e-toys I am particularly motivated about 2009 - the landscape had never been so proper to make it growth. Taking growth as explained by David Cavallo's in his paper - Models of growth — towards fundamental change in learning environments - ... as the terms replication and scaling are themselves problematic and misleading. I see 2009 proper for growth because OLPC has already delivered XOs in schools in many countries; technology price had go down also in developing countries… But schools will need initiated teachers, teachers active in e-toys community, to make it happen. Maybe, relating Squeakfest with a big software conferences might scare teachers… In the other hand, making Squeakfest close to an IT for Education conference (WCCE) is probably going to increase attendance of teachers and people from education area.
Let me know your thoughts,
Hi Marta,
I agree with you that the main focus of Squeakfest should be the teachers and educators. In this context I would think July is easier for teachers because of the summer holidays, which in most countries will have started in July (as far as I know). What you think about Squeakfest sounds very inspiring! Please let me know how I can help you with planning.
Best regards, Rita
Marta
-----Mensagem original----- De: Randal L. Schwartz [mailto:merlyn@stonehenge.com] Enviada em: sábado, 22 de novembro de 2008 10:42 Para: Marta Voelcker Cc: squeakland@squeakland.org; etoys@lists.laptop.org; 'Susana Seidel'; Edson Lindner; 'Daniela Hoffmann'; decio@pensamentodigital.org.br ; Léa Fagundes - UFRGS (Léa Fagundes - UFRGS); 'bruno sperb'; 'Mônica Estrázulas' Assunto: Re: [Squeakland] Squeakfest 2009
"Marta" == Marta Voelcker marta@pensamentodigital.org.br
writes:
Marta> It is time to continue to plan and decide things about Squeakfest Marta> 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and we are enthusiastic to Marta> hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th ( Thursday to Marta> Saturday). Another International Conference about IT for Ed
- WCCE
Marta> -world conference in computers for education is going to take place Marta> near Porto Alegre in the following week - July 27th to 31st. We Marta> thought that some of the people coming for Squeakfest would get Marta> interested in attending WCCE and vice versa.
Please also note the addition of an entire 3-day Smalltalk Mini-Conf within FISL 10, a mere three weeks earlier within the same city! How much smalltalking can Porto Alegre handle? :)
-- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 merlyn@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion _______________________________________________ Etoys mailing list Etoys@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
Rita,
thanks for your reply, Nice to know that you are considering to come! We could think together how to organize some new kind - more interactive workshops - maybe for a happy hour -or one afternoon -
I participated in a conference in Costa Rica, last April - there was one moment called " Café with researchers" they organized 2 researchers and a translator per table together with 10 local students - we had coffee and an casual conversation - each table had specific theme and researchers from different countries... I am sure you have other experiences ... we could think about some interactive moments...
Vielen dank!
Marta
-----Mensagem original----- De: Rita Freudenberg [mailto:rita@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de] Enviada em: domingo, 23 de novembro de 2008 17:02 Para: Marta Voelcker Cc: 'Randal L. Schwartz'; etoys@lists.laptop.org; 'Susana Seidel'; 'Edson Lindner'; squeakland@squeakland.org; 'Daniela Hoffmann'; decio@pensamentodigital.org.br; "'Léa Fagundes - UFRGS (Léa Fagundes - UFRGS)'"; 'bruno sperb'; "'Mônica Estrázulas'" Assunto: Re: [Etoys] RES: [Squeakland] Squeakfest 2009
Am 23.11.2008 um 06:11 schrieb Marta Voelcker:
Randal, Jecel and all,
June is also possible, but, I was thinking how Smalltalk Conference and how FISL atmosphere relate to the Squeakfest that I had in mind (similar to Chicago 2007)...
I have limited experience, but the way I see things, the currently biggest challenge for E-toys growth is not on its code, is not related to software, but to teachers and schools reps. It is related to communicating what for, and how to, use it inside schools.
In this context, making a metaphor with sports, let's say... with NBA - I see the developers/programmers as the wise and experienced coaches, and I see the teachers as the players. They are those who score, who make it happen inside the classroom - I would like to see them becoming the stars, shining in this context!
The name Squeakfest made history already, and so we plan to keep it, but in fact, the idea is not about squeak-the programming language- the idea is gathering together to share experience and plans about E-toys.
Talking about e-toys I am particularly motivated about 2009 - the landscape had never been so proper to make it growth. Taking growth as explained by David Cavallo's in his paper - Models of growth towards fundamental change in learning environments - ... as the terms replication and scaling are themselves problematic and misleading. I see 2009 proper for growth because OLPC has already delivered XOs in schools in many countries; technology price had go down also in developing countries But schools will need initiated teachers, teachers active in e-toys community, to make it happen. Maybe, relating Squeakfest with a big software conferences might scare teachers In the other hand, making Squeakfest close to an IT for Education conference (WCCE) is probably going to increase attendance of teachers and people from education area.
Let me know your thoughts,
Hi Marta,
I agree with you that the main focus of Squeakfest should be the teachers and educators. In this context I would think July is easier for teachers because of the summer holidays, which in most countries will have started in July (as far as I know). What you think about Squeakfest sounds very inspiring! Please let me know how I can help you with planning.
Best regards, Rita
Marta
-----Mensagem original----- De: Randal L. Schwartz [mailto:merlyn@stonehenge.com] Enviada em: sábado, 22 de novembro de 2008 10:42 Para: Marta Voelcker Cc: squeakland@squeakland.org; etoys@lists.laptop.org; 'Susana Seidel'; Edson Lindner; 'Daniela Hoffmann'; decio@pensamentodigital.org.br
; Léa Fagundes - UFRGS (Léa Fagundes - UFRGS); 'bruno sperb'; 'Mônica Estrázulas' Assunto: Re: [Squeakland] Squeakfest 2009
"Marta" == Marta Voelcker marta@pensamentodigital.org.br
writes:
Marta> It is time to continue to plan and decide things about Squeakfest Marta> 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and we are enthusiastic to Marta> hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th ( Thursday to Marta> Saturday). Another International Conference about IT for Ed
- WCCE
Marta> -world conference in computers for education is going to take place Marta> near Porto Alegre in the following week - July 27th to 31st. We Marta> thought that some of the people coming for Squeakfest would get Marta> interested in attending WCCE and vice versa.
Please also note the addition of an entire 3-day Smalltalk Mini-Conf within FISL 10, a mere three weeks earlier within the same city! How much smalltalking can Porto Alegre handle? :)
-- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 merlyn@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion _______________________________________________ Etoys mailing list Etoys@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
Marta Voelcker wrote:
Rita,
thanks for your reply, Nice to know that you are considering to come! We could think together how to organize some new kind - more interactive workshops - maybe for a happy hour -or one afternoon -
I participated in a conference in Costa Rica, last April - there was one moment called " Café with researchers" they organized 2 researchers and a translator per table together with 10 local students - we had coffee and an casual conversation - each table had specific theme and researchers from different countries... I am sure you have other experiences ... we could think about some interactive moments...
That sounds very interesting! What I liked very much at the Scratch conference in July were the kids on the first keynote. That was such a motivation for every researcher and teacher! I would like to do something like that at Squeakfest, maybe with the kids from Luciana de Abreu Elementary School? What do you think?
Cumprimentos, Rita
Vielen dank!
Marta
-----Mensagem original----- De: Rita Freudenberg [mailto:rita@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de] Enviada em: domingo, 23 de novembro de 2008 17:02 Para: Marta Voelcker Cc: 'Randal L. Schwartz'; etoys@lists.laptop.org; 'Susana Seidel'; 'Edson Lindner'; squeakland@squeakland.org; 'Daniela Hoffmann'; decio@pensamentodigital.org.br; "'Léa Fagundes - UFRGS (Léa Fagundes - UFRGS)'"; 'bruno sperb'; "'Mônica Estrázulas'" Assunto: Re: [Etoys] RES: [Squeakland] Squeakfest 2009
Am 23.11.2008 um 06:11 schrieb Marta Voelcker:
Randal, Jecel and all,
June is also possible, but, I was thinking how Smalltalk Conference and how FISL atmosphere relate to the Squeakfest that I had in mind (similar to Chicago 2007)...
I have limited experience, but the way I see things, the currently biggest challenge for E-toys growth is not on its code, is not related to software, but to teachers and schools reps. It is related to communicating what for, and how to, use it inside schools.
In this context, making a metaphor with sports, let's say... with NBA - I see the developers/programmers as the wise and experienced coaches, and I see the teachers as the players. They are those who score, who make it happen inside the classroom - I would like to see them becoming the stars, shining in this context!
The name Squeakfest made history already, and so we plan to keep it, but in fact, the idea is not about squeak-the programming language- the idea is gathering together to share experience and plans about E-toys.
Talking about e-toys I am particularly motivated about 2009 - the landscape had never been so proper to make it growth. Taking growth as explained by David Cavallo's in his paper - Models of growth — towards fundamental change in learning environments - ... as the terms replication and scaling are themselves problematic and misleading. I see 2009 proper for growth because OLPC has already delivered XOs in schools in many countries; technology price had go down also in developing countries… But schools will need initiated teachers, teachers active in e-toys community, to make it happen. Maybe, relating Squeakfest with a big software conferences might scare teachers… In the other hand, making Squeakfest close to an IT for Education conference (WCCE) is probably going to increase attendance of teachers and people from education area.
Let me know your thoughts,
Hi Marta,
I agree with you that the main focus of Squeakfest should be the teachers and educators. In this context I would think July is easier for teachers because of the summer holidays, which in most countries will have started in July (as far as I know). What you think about Squeakfest sounds very inspiring! Please let me know how I can help you with planning.
Best regards, Rita
Marta
-----Mensagem original----- De: Randal L. Schwartz [mailto:merlyn@stonehenge.com] Enviada em: sábado, 22 de novembro de 2008 10:42 Para: Marta Voelcker Cc: squeakland@squeakland.org; etoys@lists.laptop.org; 'Susana Seidel'; Edson Lindner; 'Daniela Hoffmann'; decio@pensamentodigital.org.br
; Léa Fagundes - UFRGS (Léa Fagundes - UFRGS); 'bruno sperb'; 'Mônica Estrázulas' Assunto: Re: [Squeakland] Squeakfest 2009
> "Marta" == Marta Voelcker marta@pensamentodigital.org.br >
writes:
Marta> It is time to continue to plan and decide things about Squeakfest Marta> 2009. My colleagues and I have been talking and we are enthusiastic to Marta> hold a gathering in Porto Alegre on July 23rd to 25th ( Thursday to Marta> Saturday). Another International Conference about IT for Ed
- WCCE
Marta> -world conference in computers for education is going to take place Marta> near Porto Alegre in the following week - July 27th to 31st. We Marta> thought that some of the people coming for Squeakfest would get Marta> interested in attending WCCE and vice versa.
Please also note the addition of an entire 3-day Smalltalk Mini-Conf within FISL 10, a mere three weeks earlier within the same city! How much smalltalking can Porto Alegre handle? :)
-- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 merlyn@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion _______________________________________________ Etoys mailing list Etoys@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
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