Hello, everyone!
Me and a colleague of mine were building a lesson (for children) in Etoys. She sent me the project and I successfully opened and edited it. I sent her my changes and she told me she couldn't open it. I tried on my OLPC laptop (B2, C18, XO 502) and it worked. Then I reinstalled XO 406 stable version on my laptop and retried to open; this time I coulnd't open the project.
I made the changes on my PC running squeak with the latest etoys.imageprovided. She has XO 406 and I reinstalled it too. On this system it doesn't even open. Aren't .pr files portable between (let's say..) different versions of Squeak/Etoys?
Please help me. What do I have to do so children can have this kind of problem? Is there a method I can convert my .pr to one specfic to an older version of Etoys, present in the XO 406 system?
Thank you in advance. tb
Tibi,
Etoys which is being developed gets some new features and new kind of objects now and then. That certainly happens (many times) since build 406 and build 500 something. Usually, a project can be carried over to a newer version from an older version, but the opposite direction is not guaranteed at all.
I would like to take a look at your project and what new object is getting in your way. There is a case by case solution for this problem. I really don't see real benefit to provide complete solution for migrating a project from newer version to an older, but I may be able to help in some cases.
If your colleague has B2, I was told that "Etoys-41.xo" should work on B2 with 406. You can just update the Etoys activity and hopefully your project would load into it.
-- Yoshiki
At Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:20:12 +0300, Tibi wrote:
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[1.2 <text/html; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>] Hello, everyone!
Me and a colleague of mine were building a lesson (for children) in Etoys. She sent me the project and I successfully opened and edited it. I sent her my changes and she told me she couldn't open it. I tried on my OLPC laptop (B2, C18, XO 502) and it worked. Then I reinstalled XO 406 stable version on my laptop and retried to open; this time I coulnd't open the project.
I made the changes on my PC running squeak with the latest etoys.image provided. She has XO 406 and I reinstalled it too. On this system it doesn't even open. Aren't .pr files portable between (let's say..) different versions of Squeak/ Etoys?
Please help me. What do I have to do so children can have this kind of problem? Is there a method I can convert my .pr to one specfic to an older version of Etoys, present in the XO 406 system?
Thank you in advance. tb
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"Etoys-41.xo" should work on B2 with 406.
well ... if you want to use an old build like 406 and just update the etoys rpm, that's when you need the Etoys-41.xo bundle. Upgrade the rpm and install the bundle.
- Bert -
On Jul 25, 2007, at 23:48 , Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
Tibi,
Etoys which is being developed gets some new features and new kind of objects now and then. That certainly happens (many times) since build 406 and build 500 something. Usually, a project can be carried over to a newer version from an older version, but the opposite direction is not guaranteed at all.
I would like to take a look at your project and what new object is getting in your way. There is a case by case solution for this problem. I really don't see real benefit to provide complete solution for migrating a project from newer version to an older, but I may be able to help in some cases.
If your colleague has B2, I was told that "Etoys-41.xo" should work on B2 with 406. You can just update the Etoys activity and hopefully your project would load into it.
-- Yoshiki
At Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:20:12 +0300, Tibi wrote:
[1 <multipart/alternative (7bit)>] [1.1 <text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>]
[1.2 <text/html; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>] Hello, everyone!
Me and a colleague of mine were building a lesson (for children) in Etoys. She sent me the project and I successfully opened and edited it. I sent her my changes and she told me she couldn't open it. I tried on my OLPC laptop (B2, C18, XO 502) and it worked. Then I reinstalled XO 406 stable version on my laptop and retried to open; this time I coulnd't open the project.
I made the changes on my PC running squeak with the latest etoys.image provided. She has XO 406 and I reinstalled it too. On this system it doesn't even open. Aren't .pr files portable between (let's say..) different versions of Squeak/ Etoys?
Please help me. What do I have to do so children can have this kind of problem? Is there a method I can convert my .pr to one specfic to an older version of Etoys, present in the XO 406 system?
Thank you in advance. tb
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Ok, thanks a lot, guys! :)
I believe I'll rebuild my lesson on 406 cause we need portability and the current stable XO version is still 406.15.
Still, have one more question: what version of Squeak/Etoys comes with XO 406?
cya, tb
On 7/26/07, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
"Etoys-41.xo" should work on B2 with 406.
well ... if you want to use an old build like 406 and just update the etoys rpm, that's when you need the Etoys-41.xo bundle. Upgrade the rpm and install the bundle.
- Bert -
On Jul 25, 2007, at 23:48 , Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
Tibi,
Etoys which is being developed gets some new features and new kind of objects now and then. That certainly happens (many times) since build 406 and build 500 something. Usually, a project can be carried over to a newer version from an older version, but the opposite direction is not guaranteed at all.
I would like to take a look at your project and what new object is getting in your way. There is a case by case solution for this problem. I really don't see real benefit to provide complete solution for migrating a project from newer version to an older, but I may be able to help in some cases.
If your colleague has B2, I was told that "Etoys-41.xo" should work on B2 with 406. You can just update the Etoys activity and hopefully your project would load into it.
-- Yoshiki
At Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:20:12 +0300, Tibi wrote:
[1 <multipart/alternative (7bit)>] [1.1 <text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>]
[1.2 <text/html; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>] Hello, everyone!
Me and a colleague of mine were building a lesson (for children) in Etoys. She sent me the project and I successfully opened and edited it. I sent her my changes and she told me she couldn't open it. I tried on my OLPC laptop (B2, C18, XO 502) and it worked. Then I reinstalled XO 406 stable version on my laptop and retried to open; this time I coulnd't open the project.
I made the changes on my PC running squeak with the latest etoys.image provided. She has XO 406 and I reinstalled it too. On this system it doesn't even open. Aren't .pr files portable between (let's say..) different versions of Squeak/ Etoys?
Please help me. What do I have to do so children can have this kind of problem? Is there a method I can convert my .pr to one specfic to an older version of Etoys, present in the XO 406 system?
Thank you in advance. tb
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Tibi,
I believe I'll rebuild my lesson on 406 cause we need portability and the current stable XO version is still 406.15.
However, you know that 406 is not going to be around anyway, and "stable release" at this development period doesn't mean so much.
Still, have one more question: what version of Squeak/Etoys comes with XO 406?
Etoys has somewhat different way to define the "version". To see it, get the halo of the "world" and from the white menu, choose, "about this system..." and look at the number after "latest update:" The number is practically the version number of the system.
-- Yoshiki
Hello, I was trying to make an icon that would represent translation and multilingual at the same time, and after a few tries (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:HoboPrimate#Translation.2FMultilingual.2FTran...), I remembered you had made one for olpc etoys top bar. I can't imagine a more simple and effective one than the one you did. I re-did it, but keeping the inner globe intact (I think making the general icon cleaner is more important than getting it perfectly realistic, i.e., having the globe follow the curved surface of the flag). It's an svg, so you can change the colours and export it to the size you wish easily. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Translate9.svg
Any comments are welcome, and if by any change there are a few more you would like (re-)done, you can ask.
Eduardo
--- Yoshiki Ohshima yoshiki@squeakland.org wrote:
Tibi,
I believe I'll rebuild my lesson on 406 cause we
need portability and the current stable XO version is still 406.15.
However, you know that 406 is not going to be around anyway, and "stable release" at this development period doesn't mean so much.
Still, have one more question: what version of
Squeak/Etoys comes with XO 406?
Etoys has somewhat different way to define the "version". To see it, get the halo of the "world" and from the white menu, choose, "about this system..." and look at the number after "latest update:" The number is practically the version number of the system.
-- Yoshiki _______________________________________________ Etoys mailing list Etoys@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys
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