etoys-dev November 2007

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[Etoys] exporting a .pot file for a class category
by Hilaire Fernandes 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Hello, I would like to export a DrGeoII.pot file to update the translation catalog. I try GetTextExporter2 new exportTranslator: nil but I only get a Etoys.pot I also try to add DrGeoII category in a drgeo domain, but it does not help. Btw, are there any place with documentation about the gettext exporter for developer? Best regards, Hilaire -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]

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[Etoys] can't install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 -- could not find display driver vm-display-X11
by Bryan Berry 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

I have been trying to install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 w/out success I was able to install it w/ Debian packages but the sound didn't work. At the advice of my colleague Luke Gorrie I tried installing it from the VM-Source tarball http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/unix-linux/Squeak-3.9-8.src.tar.gz I used the documentation in /unix/doc/HowToBuildFromSource.pdf I ran the configure script and got an error that it couldn't find npsqueak libraries. I then tried ../config/configure --without-npsqueak it configured but this showed up in the config.log configure:26825: result: ******** disabling vm-display-X11 I then did make and make install Predictably, I get this error when I try to open a squeak image $ squeak olenepal-demo.4.image could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either: - check that /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/vm-display-X11.so exists, or - use the '-plugins <path>' option to tell me where it is, or - remove DISPLAY from your environment. Aborted (core dumped) Please assist :) What's the best place to look for documentation on Squeak installation? I found some in the Squeak wiki, OLPC wiki, and a few other places but no single comprehensive resource. I will try to add notes on how to successfully install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 onto the OLPC Wiki once I can successfully install it myself : Help! Part of my job is to teach people how to use Squeak so our development team (the real programmers) can focus full-time on developing learning activities w/ Squeak. I need to get up to speed on Squeak quickly. Thanks -- Bryan W. Berry External Relations Manager OLE Nepal, http://nepal.ole.org

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[Etoys] Questions questions
by Luke Gorrie 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Howdy! I have some questions and suggestions following up this blog post: http://nepal.ole.org/home/?q=node/86 1. How can we load applications like Monticello, Whisker, Refactoring Browser, etc into the XO image? >From #squeak I have a working method to import Monticello but it's not pretty (it involves the debugger's 'Return from frame:' feature for example) 2. What repository should we use for our project files? We're developing a set of activities as project files, much like Demon's Castle and Etoys Challenge. We're trying to choose between a shared folder, git/svn/etc repository, attachments on Wiki pages, a SuperSwiki, etc. How's it done for the projects that ship with the XO? 3. To begin with we're using a custom Squeak image to run our activities in. This is mostly a simple way to make our Smalltalk codebase available to all projects. Should we be thinking about a better way to do this? Finally I've found a performance-degradation problem with Morph>>duplicate that I haven't figured out how to reproduce from a fresh image. In one of my images Morph>>duplicate is spending lots of time (600ms on a fast machine) searching for a unique name in the series Sketch1/Sketch2/etc. It seems to be rejecting thousands of names that have actually fallen out of use (their morphs have been garbage collected). In this image I've found the following dubious change helpful in PasteUpMorph>>uniqueNameForReferenceFor: old: ((self referencePool includesKey: nameSym) not and: new: (((self referencePool at: nameSym ifAbsent: nil) isNil) and: because many names are present as keys in the referencePool with value nil. I'm not sure if this is the right thing or how I ended up with so many names in use. -Luke P.S. TimeProfileBrowser is a dreamboat!

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Re: [Etoys] OLPC mass production started
by Yoshiki Ohshima 12 Nov '07

12 Nov '07

Nevin, > I want some of these machines. > > Some for my own kids, and some to donate to their school. > > How do I get some? Sort of a strange question at this point from a tech-savvy, Internet-accessible person like you... Are you aware of, or talking about, the Give One Get One program? Last time I heard, the donated half go to Uruguay, and you cannot donate to your local school (perhaps unless you are already in Uruguay.) http://www.xogiving.org/ There are some other ways to get "some", such as Give Many: http://laptopfoundation.org/participate/givemany.shtml or become a developer: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers_program -- Yoshiki

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[Etoys] Emulating stable build in Parallels Desktop on Mac OS X
by Bert Freudenberg 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

I made a disk image of the latest stable build (623 [1]) that works for me in Parallels Desktop (build 3124 [2]). The disk image has enough room (I padded the img to a full 1 GB), runs with readable fonts (I patched xorg.conf as suggested in #3681), has working sound (I unmuted alsa manually) as well as network access (I added a S99parallels init script that simply does "ifup eth0"), and etoys uses framebuffer scaling to emulate the XO's native 1200x900 resolution. Here it is (200 MB): http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/Parallels-OLPC-623-bf.zip - Bert - [1] This is the stable version according to the wiki, builds 624 and 625 should behave no different when emulated. [2] That's the German version of Parallels 2.5, not tested on 3.0, though I expect it to work.

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[Etoys] SqueakMap not working out-of-the-box
by Luke Gorrie 11 Nov '07

11 Nov '07

On 11/11/2007, Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de> wrote: > > > 1. How can we load applications like Monticello, Whisker, Refactoring > > Browser, etc into the XO image? > > From #squeak I have a working method to import Monticello but it's not > > pretty (it involves the debugger's 'Return from frame:' feature for > > example) > > I don't quite understand. Use whatever methods you would normally > use? Indeed the trouble is that those methods aren't working. I opened a more explicit Trac ticket: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4799 > The problem is making this permanent in the image, and writing > the changes file (both are read-only in /usr/share/etoys). Missing context: I'm using a custom development image derived from etoys-dev-2.2 on my MacBook. This image will be used to develop projects that will run on the XO but that's separate from my SqueakMap desires. > > 2. What repository should we use for our project files? > > We use a subversion repository - it works better for binary files > than git. Thanks for the tip! > > Finally I've found a performance-degradation problem with > > Morph>>duplicate > > You should open a Trac ticket about that. OK. I'll spend some more time to find out how reproducible it is or isn't first. Thanks! -Luke

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[Etoys] [Fix] translate classic navigator
by korakurider 10 Nov '07

10 Nov '07

Hello. Button captions of classic navigator can be extracted into POs and translated with the patch attached. Though this is for squeakland-OLPC rather than EToys-OLPC, here it is anyway... /Korakurider -------------------------------------- New Design Yahoo! JAPAN 2008/01/01 http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/newdesign/ 'From etoys2.2 of 25 September 2007 [latest update: #1760] on 7 November 2007 at 2:46:13 pm'! "Change Set: classicNaviTrans-KR Date: 7 November 2007 Author: Korakurider translate buttons of classic etoys navigator"! !ProjectNavigationMorph methodsFor: 'the buttons' stamp: 'KR 11/7/2007 14:40'! buttonFind "Answer a button for finding/loading projects" ^ self makeButton: 'FIND' translated balloonText: 'Click here to find a project. Hold down this button to reveal additional options.' translated for: #findAProjectSimple ! ! !ProjectNavigationMorph methodsFor: 'the buttons' stamp: 'KR 11/7/2007 14:43'! buttonFlaps ^self inFlapsSuppressedMode ifTrue: [ self makeButton: 'Show tabs' translated balloonText: 'Show tabs' for: #toggleFlapsSuppressed ] ifFalse: [ self makeButton: 'Hide tabs' translated balloonText: 'Hide tabs' for: #toggleFlapsSuppressed ]. ! ! !ProjectNavigationMorph methodsFor: 'the buttons' stamp: 'KR 11/7/2007 14:43'! buttonFullScreen ^self inFullScreenMode ifTrue: [ self makeButton: 'Browser Reentry' translated balloonText: 'Re-enter the browser' for: #fullScreenOff ] ifFalse: [ self makeButton: 'Escape Browser' translated balloonText: 'Use the full screen' for: #fullScreenOn ] ! ! !ProjectNavigationMorph methodsFor: 'the buttons' stamp: 'KR 11/7/2007 14:42'! buttonGoTo ^self makeButton: 'GO TO' translated balloonText: 'Go to another project' for: #gotoAnother ! ! !ProjectNavigationMorph methodsFor: 'the buttons' stamp: 'KR 11/7/2007 14:40'! buttonNewProject ^self makeButton: 'NEW' translated balloonText: 'Start a new project' translated for: #newProject ! ! !ProjectNavigationMorph methodsFor: 'the buttons' stamp: 'KR 11/7/2007 14:42'! buttonNewer ^self makeButton: 'Newer?' translated balloonText: 'Is there a newer version of this project ?' for: #getNewerVersionIfAvailable! ! !ProjectNavigationMorph methodsFor: 'the buttons' stamp: 'KR 11/7/2007 14:42'! buttonNext ^self makeButton: 'NEXT >' translated balloonText: 'Next project' for: #nextProject! ! !ProjectNavigationMorph methodsFor: 'the buttons' stamp: 'KR 11/7/2007 14:41'! buttonPrev ^self makeButton: '< PREV' translated balloonText: 'Previous project' translated for: #previousProject! ! !ProjectNavigationMorph methodsFor: 'the buttons' stamp: 'KR 11/7/2007 14:41'! buttonQuit ^self makeButton: 'QUIT' translated balloonText: ('Quit Squeak altogether' translatedNoop) for: #quitSqueak ! ! !ProjectNavigationMorph methodsFor: 'the buttons' stamp: 'KR 11/7/2007 14:42'! buttonTell ^self makeButton: 'Tell!!' translated balloonText: 'Tell a friend about this project' for: #tellAFriend ! !

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[Etoys] New BotsInc version
by stephane ducasse 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Hi all here is a new version of BotsInc. Can you play with it and give me feedback? I tried to remove as much as possible functionality related to files. Thanks PS: I did the check suggested for bert (opening project, saving, reloading new project version in the fresh image) and it worked for me the classes are there.

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Re: [Etoys] while trying again...
by Bert Freudenberg 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

On Oct 31, 2007, at 18:02 , stephane ducasse wrote: > I'm trying to use WMWare wihtout success for the moment. > So while trying I loaded in etoys-dev2.2. the project I sent and I > do not understand because my classes are in there. > I can browse them without any problem. > > I do not understand when you say that my class are not in the image > once they are journaled. I mean if take a clean image, you load the original project, save it, quit the image without saving, load the image, load the saved project, then the classes are missing. At least that was the case when I last tested it. If it is working fine now, great. - Bert -

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Re: [Etoys] Circles and Ellipses with embeded objects
by Jerome Peace 05 Nov '07

05 Nov '07

[Etoys] Circles and Ellipses with embeded objects Hi Karl, Hi Yoshiki CircleMorphs are similar to PolygonMorphs in there rotation policy. They both behave differently from ellipses and rectangles when rotated. This becomes apparent when you add submorphs to them and then rotate. I started to do some analysis and comparisons here: http://209.143.91.36/super/727 Rotation and Scaling, Reflection and Growth and a mantis issue http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=5674 5674: Why doesn't heading = forwardDirection + rotationDegrees for all morphs all the time? I've done more thinking since then but haven't collected those further thoughts into publishable stuff. Maybe now that there is an interest... Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace *** >Yoshiki Ohshima yoshiki at vpri.org >Thu Nov 1 04:14:44 EDT 2007 > > Well, I'm not doing a good job to advocate to remove CircleMorph and >these special cases... > > Karl's fix is a start, but for example typing a number into the >"heading" slot in the CircleMorph doesn't work. There is some other >bad assumptions around it... > >-- Yoshiki > >At Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:38:50 +0100, >Karl wrote: >> >> [1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (7bit)>] >> antonio wrote: >> > Hello >> > >> > Actually when you rotate an EllipseMorph instance with another object >> > embeded, then this object -the second one- also rotate, but when you >> > rotate a CircleMorph instance with another object embeded, the second >> > one do not rotate solidarity. >> Here is a fix <snipped> >> >> Karl *** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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