etoys-dev November 2007

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[Etoys] Pen color quirk
by Karl 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

I was doing some experiments with pen drawing and found that I could not use the color category directly with pen color. Like if I had a 'Ellipse brightness <- 100' tile I could not drop the 'Ellipse pen color' tile to replace the 'Ellipse' tile. I'll look into this if somebody does not beat me to it :-) Karl

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[Etoys] Hyperlinked projects
by Luke Gorrie 28 Nov '07

28 Nov '07

Howdy! I'd like some tips on how to develop a collection of linked Squeak projects, much like the standard ones distributed with the XO image. Here're my imagined "use cases": * Create a new Squeak project, name it, save it into a common repository (directory, svn, ...) * Open an existing project, change it, save it back to the repository with exactly the same name (but a new revision in a local folder e.g. Squeaklets). * Drag'n'drop project X into project Y (I'll see a thumbnail of X as a ProjectViewMorph) and then save project Y. Later open a fresh image, load project Y, click on the thumbnail -- successfully have project X loaded from disk (preferably looking in a location relative to the parent project Y or the image). Overall I'd like to have a directory structure something like: Activities/ MainMenu.pr Math/ MathMenu.pr Adding.pr Subtracting.pr English/ EnglishMenu.pr Vocabulary.pr Pronunciation.pr Does this sound reasonable? Can someone please spell out in painful detail how it's done? I'm trying to assemble a bunch of projects into a consistent menu tree -- basically to rebuild our old E-paati from a collection of separate project files instead of loading all the projects into the image. I've spent most of the weekend studying, hacking, unhacking, rehacking, unhacking, etc Project/ProjectViewMorph/DiskProxy/ProjectLoading and I'm not ashamed to say that I need help. :-) Cheers! -Luke

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[Etoys] Context comment in POs too long for Pootle
by korakurider 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

Hello. When playing with EToys test project in Pootle I found some usability problem: EToys extractor of PO/POTs sometimes generate very long context comment. Pootle decides column width of online editor simply by the longest information in the first column, so screen layout become very ugly. You could see the figure by searching "Multimedia" in any language of etoys project. It would be great if we can work around with some tweak of setting in Pootle. Or, we may want to adjust (again) our comment format if Pootle can support... Any suggestion will be appreciated. (need ticket for this?) Cheers, /Korakurider -------------------------------------- New Design Yahoo! JAPAN 2008/01/01 http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/newdesign/

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Re: [Etoys] [Localization] Fwd: Pootle now fully open for translation
by Xavier Alvarez 26 Nov '07

26 Nov '07

People, I want remind all that the Etoys project in Pootle[1] is a TEST... not the real thing. If you want to collaborate, please continue doing so in Launchpad's site[2]. [1] TEST: https://dev.laptop.org/translate/projects/etoys/ [2] REAL: https://translations.launchpad.net/etoys/first-deployment/ Cheers, Xavier On Wednesday 21 November 2007 17:19, Yuan Chao wrote: YC> Hi, YC> YC> Would it be possible to add Chinese language (both zh_TW YC> and zh_CN) for Pootle Etoys too? YC> YC> YC> On Nov 21, 2007 6:40 PM, Xavier Alvarez YC> <xavi.alvarez(a)gmail.com> wrote: YC> > Takashi, YC> > YC> > A TEST Pootle Etoys project has been created and loaded... YC> > YC> > Things to note: YC> > 1) suggestion / review is disabled YC> > 2) both anonymous and registered users can translate YC> > 3) no version control YC> > ...snip... -- XA ========= Don't Panic! The Answer is 42

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Re: [Etoys] Video support
by luis ACEVEDO 24 Nov '07

24 Nov '07

>From: karl <karl.ramberg(a)comhem.se> > The webcam project from way back would be fun: > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1853 > If it could be accessed from etoys all kind of EyeToy games etc could be > made. > Karl I thing the logic morph for this is video device, in multimedia section. But, in my B4 XO just obtain a test image (lenna o color bars). Reading Diego´s blog http://diegogomezdeck.blogspot.com/2007/03/webcam-en-squeak-en-la-olpc-20-c… he say the video support is ok. I have a Build 623. Pato Acevedo _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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[Etoys] Fwd: update-1 branches
by Bert Freudenberg 22 Nov '07

22 Nov '07

I guess we should start etoys-2.3 then, too. Only important fixes would still go into 2.2. - Bert - Begin forwarded message: > From: "Marco Pesenti Gritti" <mpgritti(a)gmail.com> > Date: November 20, 2007 13:16:58 GMT+01:00 > To: "Sugar List" <sugar(a)laptop.org> > Subject: [sugar] update-1 branches > > Hello, > > I branched all the core modules for update-1. > > artwork > sugar-base > chat-activity > datastore > journal-activity > presence-service > read-activity > sugar > web-activity > write > > Please cherry pick to the branch only if you have ApprovalForUpdate. > > As usual: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Git_Tips > > Thanks, > Marco > _______________________________________________ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar(a)lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

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[Etoys] Fwd: Pootle now fully open for translation
by Bert Freudenberg 21 Nov '07

21 Nov '07

Takashi, do we want to add Etoys to pootle? - Bert - Begin forwarded message: > From: Sayamindu Dasgupta <sayamindu(a)gmail.com> > Date: November 19, 2007 19:00:12 GMT+01:00 > To: localization(a)lists.laptop.org > Subject: [Localization] [Announce] Pootle now fully open for > translation > > Hi all, > > We are extremely happy to announce that the new translation > infrastructure at dev.laptop.org is now fully open for translation. > The URL of the on line translation and translation project management > software is http://dev.laptop.org/translate. > Administrative privileges have been granted to the following users for > the following languages: > > Username Languages > ======== =========== > khaled -- Arabic > YuanChao -- Chinese (Traditional) > simosx -- Greek > carlo -- Italian > shankar -- Nepali > huda -- Urdu > > So if you want to translate for any of the above languages - you know > whom to contact :-). > > (admins: please note that there are project wide administrative rights > as well as language specific admin rights. There is also a slightly > cluttered document for you at > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Pootle/Administration) > > If you want to start a new team for your language, file a ticket at > http://dev.laptop.org under the category localisation (mention your > Pootle username and the language code you want to handle), and we'll > take care of assigning the relevant rights. > > There's a FAQ on the setup that we have at > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Pootle/FAQ > > Some things to keep in mind while translating (aka, Known Issues): > 1. The Commit and Update buttons (if you see them at all) will not > work > until we make any further announcements. So please do not use them :-) > 2. This is the first time we are opening up XO Core and XO Bundled for > translations. If you see anything odd - file a ticket (or even better, > ping us on #olpc-pootle on irc.freenode.net) > > As a conclusion to this mail - we would like to thank everyone who has > been (directly or indirectly) involved in the process. It has been a > long battle with Pootle/Git/and whatnot - but in the end we have what > is, what we hope to be a much smoother and easier to manager > translation > workflow for all software designed for the XO > > > Thank you again, > Warm regards and happy translating :-). > Sayamindu > (On behalf of the entire team working on the Pootle installation) > > > PS: As a personal 'PS', I would like to specially thank Xavi and > Rafael > for working really hard on this - without them, this would not have > been > possible > > -- > Sayamindu Dasgupta > http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings > > _______________________________________________ > Localization mailing list > Localization(a)lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization

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Re: [Etoys] some first impressions
by Yoshiki Ohshima 21 Nov '07

21 Nov '07

Because somehow this email arrived to may inbox three months later,^^;, it is a good time to write a reminder. > 1) eToys: > It would be very nice to have support for Analog Input in eToys. For a month or so, Etoys has a support for Analog Input, in a sense that it can basically do what amixer does. Etoys has been supporting audio input and various ways to analyze it. For example, if you launch Etoys, go to the treasure box, bring Object Catalog out, go to "Multimedia" category, and bring up "SpectrumAnalyzer". By talkin, whistling, etc. you can see what it does. It has different kinds of display, etc. However, the current SpectrumAnalyzer was written more or less for a demo, and not really up to the real use. As I summarized at: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4586 Combined with the underlying facility for analog input in Etoys, kids could write their own programs by using the input data to analyze it and play with it. Also, we could show the same data in different representations, such as time domain and frequency domain, at the same time side by side, so that a wave can be viewed in various ways. I asked Arjun while ago if he would have time to try to enhance SpectrumAnalyzer in Etoys. He said after polishing up Measure for these deadlines, he wants to give it a shot (I still think he is the ideal person). However, if others on the list have ideas and time and desire, please think about enhancing SpectrumAnalyzer (or write a better one). Thank you! -- Yoshiki

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[Etoys] Arrow color
by Bert Freudenberg 20 Nov '07

20 Nov '07

Hi Takashi, I think using a tile-green background for the arrows would look better, and also indicate that this is indeed part of the tile. One- line patch attached, but this is your decision. - Bert -

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[Etoys] [FIX]PopUpCaretFix
by karl 20 Nov '07

20 Nov '07

"Change Set: PopUpCaretFix Date: 16 November 2007 Author: Karl Ramberg Moves the trailing arrows when the tile changes size eg: from one decimal to two decimal"

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