etoys-dev November 2009

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Re: Still see old project version 40 after uploading
by mrsteve 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

> The new version will not go public until it has been reviewed. > So how do you handle the case where there are too many projects and too few reviewers? Does a new project (ie: 1st version published) have to be reviewed as well before being made public? -------------------- m2f -------------------- (from forum) http://squeakland.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12742#12742 -------------------- m2f --------------------

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Re: Still see old project version 40 after uploading
by Bert 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

mrsteve wrote: > I uploaded version .007 of "Area Geo Boards1" then afterwards uploaded version .010. When I logged into the website I still saw version .007. Checked and the server had version .010 (could enter the URL and see it) but the page that project page http://www.squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=7673 still had the link to .007, I checked 40 minutes after I had uploaded .010. > > Kids will get frustrated when they upload their project and want to see it right away. > > http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-570 The new version will not go public until it has been reviewed. - Bert - -------------------- m2f -------------------- (from forum) http://squeakland.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12706#12706 -------------------- m2f --------------------

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Re: When I remix a project can't make public in showcase
by Bert 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

mrsteve wrote: > I can't make my project public, it occurs when I remix an already uploaded project and change the project name. > > I was able to recreate the problem and entered a Issue in tracker http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-546 > > Here are the steps: > 1) I uploaded "The Sadie Show", > 2) I remixed (added one picture) and uploaded with the Project Name:"The Fred Show" > 3) I logged (to the Website) and made "The Fred Show" public > 4) I went to showcase Everyone and viewed by date and saw "The Fred Show" > 5) I logged out and went back to Showcase Everyone and viewed by Date and did NOT see "The Fred Show" > > FYI, when Logged into the website, "The Fred Show" shows that it is a remix of "The Sadie Show" nice touch and this is a good use of the URI being constant. > > Please Help I can't make my project "Fraction Tools" public in the Showcase, if I can't I would appreciate an Administrator fixed the issue for this one project. Agreed. IMHO when uploading a new version with a different name it should *not* overwrite the older version. Hiding/deleting undesired versions should be a manual process. IMHO changing the title usually means it is a new project that should not overwrite the older one. At least it does no harm except that older versions are still visible. What's wrong with that? - Bert - -------------------- m2f -------------------- (from forum) http://squeakland.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12705#12705 -------------------- m2f --------------------

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re-synced forums and mailing lists
by Timothy Falconer 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

Hi everyone, Good News & Bad News . . . First the bad: Just visited the Squeakland web forums for the first time in a while. There were several real messages from people that don't have mailing list subscriptions, some asking for help. Since most of use read the mailing lists and not the forums, these have gone unnoticed. Now the good: Also since I detached them (almost a month ago), there's only been one bogus account created and two spam messages, which is quite good. The result: I've resync'ed the forums and mailing lists again, at least until the spammers rediscover us. For some history, here's part of the email from October 19th: --- I've disconnected the automatic forwarding of forum posts to the the mailing lists, which will solve the problem for the current majority of our community that uses mailing lists (at least until the human spammers discover them as well.) This doesn't solve the other problem though, which is spam on the forums, which is unfortunately because most new users and children are likely to read the forums first, not the mailing lists. This means I need your help. Please volunteer to become a moderator on the forums, so you can help me weed out the spam there. Yes, we'll be attempting new technical solutions, such as blocking the most troublesome human spammer websites. But as with all spam, this is a game of tug-a-war between the spammers and the rest of us. There will always be spam we do not catch automatically, which means we will always need help deleting it before someone gets the wrong idea about Squeakland. For a history of this issue, search for "forum spam" in forum search. It had gotten better for a while, now it's worse again. -- -- Timothy Falconer Squeakland Foundation http://squeakland.org 610-797-3100 -- "Intelligence is what you use when you don't know what to do." ... piaget

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Traces of spammers in Jira
by Korakurider 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

see "external references" of http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-169 Why their activity has not been logged in history? e.g. security hall? /Korakurider

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The Future of Squeak as of 2001
by Bert Freudenberg 11 Nov '09

11 Nov '09

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Ken G. Brown" <kbrown(a)mac.com> > Date: 9. November 2009 20:27:04 MEZ > To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Subject: [squeak-dev] Future of Squeak - Dan Shafer > Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > > > Perhaps some will find this of interest in relation to the current > discussion of the vision for Squeak: > > Squeak: Open Personal Computing and Multimedia > <http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/squeakbook/> > > The Future of Squeak - Dan Shafer > <http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/squeakbook/uploads/futuresqueak2.pdf> > > Ken G. Brown That chapter by Dan Shafer is a very interesting read even (or especially) today ... - Bert -

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What prevent latest Etoys working with latest Sugar release ?
by Hilaire Fernandes 11 Nov '09

11 Nov '09

Hello all, A few weeks ago I read Etoys4 was not shipped for latest Sugar release. Indeed after updating XO to latest stable Sugar, I can see no newer Etoys version is proposed. What is the technical problem behind? Hilaire -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

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DrGeo in ObjectCatalog
by Korakurider 10 Nov '09

10 Nov '09

Hello. After loading DrGeo changeset "Tools" tab is creeated and DrGeo is available in both "Graphics" and "Tools" tabs. Is it intended behavior? Maybe discussion needed if we want to reorganize tabs or add new one. /Korakurider

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dev meet today
by Timothy Falconer 10 Nov '09

10 Nov '09

Hi everyone, Just back from OOPSLA and I cannot make today's software meet time. I encourage you to meet anyway to discuss priorities for the next release. In particularly, which issues are must-haves for June's release. http://tracker.squeakland.org/dev I've already marked several of them as blocker, critical or immediate. The rest are marked "optional" ... small green down arrow. Change any issues to blocker/critical/immediate to mark them as must have's. My general goal is to split the list and move the rest to "someday". Feel free to do this individually or as a group in IRC. Take care, Tim -- Timothy Falconer Squeakland Foundation http://squeakland.org 610-797-3100 -- "Intelligence is what you use when you don't know what to do." ... piaget

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Switching update stream
by Bert Freudenberg 10 Nov '09

10 Nov '09

Hi Tim, we talked about moving the update stream today. Here's how to make the image use the new server for testing. To replace the old update server in the image: | d | d := DAVServerDirectory on: 'http://host.domain/path/updates'. d altUrl: 'http://host.domain/path/updates'. d moniker: 'Squeakland'. d user: 'username'. Utilities classPool at: #UpdateUrlLists put: nil. ServerDirectory inImageServers keysDo: [:k | ServerDirectory inImageServers removeKey: k]. ServerDirectory inImageServers at: 'Squeakland' put: d. Utilities updateUrlLists add: (Array with: 'Squeakland' with: # ('host.domain/path/')). To switch to the new version's stream: SystemVersion newVersion: 'etoys4.1'. - Bert -

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