Hi all,
There are some teachers here (they are from Novo Hamburgo, Brazil) asking to work with Etoys, but their lab has computers running windows 98...
Would be possible to run E-toys by any chance with that Windows? They have already tried with the last version of Etoys (from Squeakland) but did not work... Any suggestions?
thanks,
Bruno
On 27.09.2009, at 23:51, Bruno Sperb wrote:
Hi all,
There are some teachers here (they are from Novo Hamburgo, Brazil) asking to work with Etoys, but their lab has computers running windows 98...
Would be possible to run E-toys by any chance with that Windows? They have already tried with the last version of Etoys (from Squeakland) but did not work... Any suggestions?
thanks,
Bruno
-- Bruno Fagundes Sperb cel - 96853758
Hi Bruno,
the Squeak VMs since 2007 do not support Windows 98 anymore:
http://www.mail-archive.com/beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org/msg06293.ht...
However, as Andreas wrote there, you might get it to run by replacing the Virtual Machine in current Etoys by an older "3.7" VM:
http://squeakvm.org/win32/release/Squeak-Win32-3.7.1-VM.zip
This should work but you may experience problems entering non-ASCII characters, and possibly other issues (this has not been tested with current Etoys).
The use of an old VM will stop working for Etoys when we switch to "closures", maybe next year already. That new image format cannot be read by older VMs anymore. But it is necessary to be able to use Cog, a new Squeak VM that is considerably faster than what we have now.
This should especially help older machines. Possibly an option for these may be Linux? Either installing Linux on them, or booting Linux from a CD and using Etoys-To-Go?
- Bert -
At Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:00:06 +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
On 27.09.2009, at 23:51, Bruno Sperb wrote:
Hi all,
There are some teachers here (they are from Novo Hamburgo, Brazil) asking to work with Etoys, but their lab has computers running windows 98...
Would be possible to run E-toys by any chance with that Windows? They have already tried with the last version of Etoys (from Squeakland) but did not work... Any suggestions?
thanks,
Bruno
-- Bruno Fagundes Sperb cel - 96853758
Hi Bruno,
the Squeak VMs since 2007 do not support Windows 98 anymore:
http://www.mail-archive.com/beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org/msg06293.ht...
However, as Andreas wrote there, you might get it to run by replacing the Virtual Machine in current Etoys by an older "3.7" VM:
http://squeakvm.org/win32/release/Squeak-Win32-3.7.1-VM.zip
This should work but you may experience problems entering non-ASCII characters, and possibly other issues (this has not been tested with current Etoys).
So, I did dig up my old Window ME computer (it is like "0.1 herniation per block" kind of computer^^;)
http://lists.squeakland.org/pipermail/squeakland/2009-September/004782.html
What you need to do is to install the release candidate installer, extract Squeak.exe from http://squeakvm.org/win32/release/Squeak-Win32-3.7.1-VM.zip, and rename it to Etoys.exe and copy it over the Etoys.exe installed at C:\Program Files\Etoys\Etoys.app\Etoys.exe.
Then, remove the last three lines in etoys.ini that would look like:
[Security] SecureDirectory=... UserDirectory=...
and save the .ini file. It appears that it works for me and let me type Japanese characters.
But the gallery doesn't work somehow, and the user name is not expanded (but still it can save projects locally under C:\My Squeak). So there are some issues but it does work and you can save/load showcase projects, etc.
-- Yoshiki
etoys-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org