There are some problems with the latest welcome project. Clicking one of the buttons, which moves to another project, does not reliably stop the event playback. I got a walkback because activeHand is nil - debug log attached.
A second issue is that playback should also stop when clicking the "project chooser". It continues right now, interfering with the new dialog.
- Bert -
Bert,
A second issue is that playback should also stop when clicking the "project chooser". It continues right now, interfering with the new dialog.
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
The first issue about the event recorder is too tricky to mess up this week...
-- Yoshiki
Bert, Yoshiki,
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
Bert,
A second issue is that playback should also stop when clicking the "project chooser". It continues right now, interfering with the new dialog.
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
I was trying to do that. But I didn't find out reliable way to show a file dialog on the parent project. So I have not uploaded it yet. Sometimes owner of the dialog becomes weird StringMorph which has 'The worldMorph of a different world'' that was not...' instead of a PateUpMorph.
The first issue about the event recorder is too tricky to mess up this week...
Event recorder is tricky, and combination with event recorder and project transtion is worse. I think better way to do that is to set the Welcome porject as the first project, and the book in the project simply stops when you click each button. I think it is closer with Alan's original idea. Whatever, it's too late for B-Test.
Cheers, - Takashi
Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
I was trying to do that. But I didn't find out reliable way to show a file dialog on the parent project. So I have not uploaded it yet. Sometimes owner of the dialog becomes weird StringMorph which has 'The worldMorph of a different world'' that was not...' instead of a PateUpMorph.
Ted would be the right person to ask about this. I vaguely remember that he once explained to me that this happens when you try to write a reference in a project that points to another world. I don't remember the exact details though so I'm hoping he might chime in.
The first issue about the event recorder is too tricky to mess up this week...
Event recorder is tricky, and combination with event recorder and project transtion is worse. I think better way to do that is to set the Welcome porject as the first project, and the book in the project simply stops when you click each button. I think it is closer with Alan's original idea. Whatever, it's too late for B-Test.
Right. It doesn't mean we shouldn't fix it though ;-)
Cheers, - Andreas
Hi
Oh, sorry, I realize that I did some stupid thing!
I put fixed version 1104SpTransForSplash3-tak.cs in the stream and http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/Welcome.023.pr
I happened to include a reference of previous project in a button in the Welcome project. So it works with only an image, but not with others. I've never thought a project reference is related. Thank you so much!
- Takashi
Andreas Raab wrote:
Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
I was trying to do that. But I didn't find out reliable way to show a file dialog on the parent project. So I have not uploaded it yet. Sometimes owner of the dialog becomes weird StringMorph which has 'The worldMorph of a different world'' that was not...' instead of a PateUpMorph.
Ted would be the right person to ask about this. I vaguely remember that he once explained to me that this happens when you try to write a reference in a project that points to another world. I don't remember the exact details though so I'm hoping he might chime in.
Also, I don't think fixes and changes are too late for BTest. That's what this week is about (and, as Jim hinted, they might very well slip a little also).
Cheers,
Alan
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At 10:35 PM 10/24/2006, Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Hi
Oh, sorry, I realize that I did some stupid thing!
I put fixed version 1104SpTransForSplash3-tak.cs in the stream and http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/Welcome.023.pr
I happened to include a reference of previous project in a button in the Welcome project. So it works with only an image, but not with others. I've never thought a project reference is related. Thank you so much!
- Takashi
Andreas Raab wrote:
Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
I was trying to do that. But I didn't find out reliable way to show a file dialog on the parent project. So I have not uploaded it yet. Sometimes owner of the dialog becomes weird StringMorph which has 'The worldMorph of a different world'' that was not...' instead of a PateUpMorph.
Ted would be the right person to ask about this. I vaguely remember that he once explained to me that this happens when you try to write a reference in a project that points to another world. I don't remember the exact details though so I'm hoping he might chime in.
Etoys mailing list Etoys@laptop.org http://mailman.laptop.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys
They intend build 124, which will be made today, to be declared stable if tested okay:
http://mailman.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2006-October/003008.html
This means today's build *might* be the one. It's likely there will be more, but we should not rely on it. But all in all I think we are indeed in good shape.
- Bert -
Am 25.10.2006 um 14:43 schrieb Alan Kay:
Also, I don't think fixes and changes are too late for BTest. That's what this week is about (and, as Jim hinted, they might very well slip a little also).
Cheers,
Alan
At 10:35 PM 10/24/2006, Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Hi
Oh, sorry, I realize that I did some stupid thing!
I put fixed version 1104SpTransForSplash3-tak.cs in the stream and http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/Welcome.023.pr
I happened to include a reference of previous project in a button in the Welcome project. So it works with only an image, but not with others. I've never thought a project reference is related. Thank you so much!
- Takashi
Andreas Raab wrote:
Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
I was trying to do that. But I didn't find out reliable way to show a file dialog on the parent project. So I have not uploaded it yet. Sometimes owner of the dialog becomes weird StringMorph which has 'The worldMorph of a different world'' that was not...' instead of a PateUpMorph.
Ted would be the right person to ask about this. I vaguely remember that he once explained to me that this happens when you try to write a reference in a project that points to another world. I don't remember the exact details though so I'm hoping he might chime in.
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I agree. Thanks to all.
Cheers,
Alan
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At 07:22 AM 10/25/2006, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
They intend build 124, which will be made today, to be declared stable if tested okay:
http://mailman.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2006-October/003008.htmlThis means today's build *might* be the one. It's likely there will be more, but we should not rely on it. But all in all I think we are indeed in good shape.
- Bert -
Am 25.10.2006 um 14:43 schrieb Alan Kay:
Also, I don't think fixes and changes are too late for BTest. That's what this week is about (and, as Jim hinted, they might very well slip a little also).
Cheers,
Alan
At 10:35 PM 10/24/2006, Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Hi
Oh, sorry, I realize that I did some stupid thing!
I put fixed version 1104SpTransForSplash3-tak.cs in the stream and http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/Welcome.023.pr
I happened to include a reference of previous project in a button in the Welcome project. So it works with only an image, but not with others. I've never thought a project reference is related. Thank you so much!
- Takashi
Andreas Raab wrote:
Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
I was trying to do that. But I didn't find out reliable way to show a file dialog on the parent project. So I have not uploaded it yet. Sometimes owner of the dialog becomes weird StringMorph which has 'The worldMorph of a different world'' that was not...' instead of a PateUpMorph.
Ted would be the right person to ask about this. I vaguely remember that he once explained to me that this happens when you try to write a reference in a project that points to another world. I don't remember the exact details though so I'm hoping he might chime in.
Etoys mailing list Etoys@laptop.org http://mailman.laptop.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys
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Folks, I will look at this tonight. I need to reproduce this. Does the new image have the Welcome project in it? If not, please remind me where to find it.
--Ted.
At 8:06 PM -0700 10/24/06, Andreas Raab wrote:
Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
I was trying to do that. But I didn't find out reliable way to show a file dialog on the parent project. So I have not uploaded it yet. Sometimes owner of the dialog becomes weird StringMorph which has 'The worldMorph of a different world'' that was not...' instead of a PateUpMorph.
Ted would be the right person to ask about this. I vaguely remember that he once explained to me that this happens when you try to write a reference in a project that points to another world. I don't remember the exact details though so I'm hoping he might chime in.
Ted, I *believe* this may be fixed now...folks - please let Ted know. thanks, Kim
At 10:20 AM -0700 10/25/06, Ted Kaehler wrote:
Folks, I will look at this tonight. I need to reproduce this. Does the new image have the Welcome project in it? If not, please remind me where to find it.
--Ted.
At 8:06 PM -0700 10/24/06, Andreas Raab wrote:
Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
I was trying to do that. But I didn't find out reliable way to show a file dialog on the parent project. So I have not uploaded it yet. Sometimes owner of the dialog becomes weird StringMorph which has 'The worldMorph of a different world'' that was not...' instead of a PateUpMorph.
Ted would be the right person to ask about this. I vaguely remember that he once explained to me that this happens when you try to write a reference in a project that points to another world. I don't remember the exact details though so I'm hoping he might chime in.
-- Ted Kaehler http://www.squeakland.org/~ted/ (home) 3261 Montecito Drive, Las Vegas, NV 89120. voice (702) 456-7930 There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. --Joseph Brodsky, writer _______________________________________________ Etoys mailing list Etoys@laptop.org http://mailman.laptop.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys
Ted, Oh, yes. It was fixed. Thanks! - Takashi
Kim Rose wrote:
Ted, I *believe* this may be fixed now...folks - please let Ted know. thanks, Kim
At 10:20 AM -0700 10/25/06, Ted Kaehler wrote:
Folks, I will look at this tonight. I need to reproduce this. Does the new image have the Welcome project in it? If not, please remind me where to find it.
--Ted.
At 8:06 PM -0700 10/24/06, Andreas Raab wrote:
Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
I was trying to do that. But I didn't find out reliable way to show a file dialog on the parent project. So I have not uploaded it yet. Sometimes owner of the dialog becomes weird StringMorph which has 'The worldMorph of a different world'' that was not...' instead of a PateUpMorph.
Ted would be the right person to ask about this. I vaguely remember that he once explained to me that this happens when you try to write a reference in a project that points to another world. I don't remember the exact details though so I'm hoping he might chime in.
-- Ted Kaehler http://www.squeakland.org/~ted/ (home) 3261 Montecito Drive, Las Vegas, NV 89120. voice (702) 456-7930 There are worse crimes than burning books. One of them is not reading them. --Joseph Brodsky, writer _______________________________________________ Etoys mailing list Etoys@laptop.org http://mailman.laptop.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys
Takashi, Do you still need me to debug a problem when a user changes projects during playback? Or, did you find the problem and fix it?
--Ted.
At 2:35 PM +0900 10/25/06, Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Hi
Oh, sorry, I realize that I did some stupid thing!
I put fixed version 1104SpTransForSplash3-tak.cs in the stream and http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/Welcome.023.pr
I happened to include a reference of previous project in a button in the Welcome project. So it works with only an image, but not with others. I've never thought a project reference is related. Thank you so much!
- Takashi
Andreas Raab wrote:
Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
I was trying to do that. But I didn't find out reliable way to show a file dialog on the parent project. So I have not uploaded it yet. Sometimes owner of the dialog becomes weird StringMorph which has 'The worldMorph of a different world'' that was not...' instead of a PateUpMorph.
Ted would be the right person to ask about this. I vaguely remember that he once explained to me that this happens when you try to write a reference in a project that points to another world. I don't remember the exact details though so I'm hoping he might chime in.
Hi Ted,
Yes, I still need your help to fix the event recorder problem. I fixed only 'The worldMorph of a different world' problem for current release. But event recorder problem is still remained. Actually this happens rare on my PC.
http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/OLPCPlugin-1104.zip includes both image and project, Could you test them?
Thanks, - Takashi
Ted Kaehler wrote:
Takashi, Do you still need me to debug a problem when a user changes projects during playback? Or, did you find the problem and fix it?
Andreas Raab wrote:
Takashi Yamamiya wrote:
Yes, it should return to the parent project to present these dialogs. (And, it should stay there even if the user cancels the dialog).
I was trying to do that. But I didn't find out reliable way to show a file dialog on the parent project. So I have not uploaded it yet. Sometimes owner of the dialog becomes weird StringMorph which has 'The worldMorph of a different world'' that was not...' instead of a PateUpMorph.
Ted would be the right person to ask about this. I vaguely remember that he once explained to me that this happens when you try to write a reference in a project that points to another world. I don't remember the exact details though so I'm hoping he might chime in.
Bert, Scott, I just broadcast an update that stops the playback when the user clicks anywhere in the EventRecordingSpace. This should cover most of the cases. Additional issues: When the user clicks outside the EventRecordingSpace, playback does not stop. I did this on purpose. In normal tutorial playing, is the "switch to next project" inside the tutorial, or outside of it? That is, will this fix actually stop playback when the user tries to go to another project? Are there any cases when we actually want a recording to switch to another project during the playback? I am thinking of stopping playback whenever you switch projects, but maybe we don't want that. I have not fixed the walkback you mentioned. I'll look at that next.
--Ted.
At 7:38 PM +0200 10/24/06, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
There are some problems with the latest welcome project. Clicking one of the buttons, which moves to another project, does not reliably stop the event playback. I got a walkback because activeHand is nil - debug log attached.
A second issue is that playback should also stop when clicking the "project chooser". It continues right now, interfering with the new dialog.
- Bert -
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