Re: [Etoys] problems with event recorder and event theater - etoys-dev

19 Apr 2007

      Thanks, Phil,
Yes, the "file dialogs" are problematical for the Event Theatre,  
which transforms coordinates for playback so that they bear the same  
positions relative to the top-left corner of the playback theatre as  
they had borne to the top-left corner of the originating recording  
theatre; this works well for almost everything, but for the "standard- 
file dialogs" it falls apart because such dialogs are positioned  
relative to the screen-center rather than relative to the theatre- 
location.  So mouse clicks made within a file-dialog upon recording  
will tend to play back as clicks somewhere else on the screen, with  
potentially bizarre consequences.
This is potentially a hard problem.  Until it gets resolved, I think  
it's probably best not to include any use of the file-dialogs in your  
event recordings.
Thank you for alerting us to this issue!  Sorry not to have an  
immediate solution up our sleeves.
Cheers,
-- Scott
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From: Phil Dawson phil_dawson_2000@yahoo.com
Date: April 19, 2007 5:27:58 AM PDT
To: Scott Wallace scott.wallace@squeakland.org
Subject: Re: [Etoys] problems with event recorder and event theater
Yes, the problem happens every time I use find any
file.  The reason I ran into this is because I was
trying to make a recording of this tutorial
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/BookMorph_Tutorial
--- Scott Wallace scott.wallace@squeakland.org
wrote:
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Thank you, Phil!
Could it be true that *every* time you've
encountered this kind of
problem, it's involved use of a "file dialog" (find,
find-any-file,
or publish-it) within an event-recording?
Cheers,
-- Scott
On Apr 18, 2007, at 6:41 PM, Phil Dawson wrote:
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Hi Scott,
I am running etoys-dev-2.0-1217 on open suse 10.2
I am trying to record the process of importing a
photo.  The recording process seems to mess up
when I
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go to find any file and select the file name of
the
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picture.  Every thing done after that is ether not
recorded correctly or it just does not playback
correctly.  I just tried it today with the latest
patches and I am havening the same problem.  I
have
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attached a .pr for you to look at.
Thanks
Phil Dawson
--- Scott Wallace scott.wallace@squeakland.org
wrote:
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Hi, Phil,
I've not seen this problem, and so far no one
else
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has reported it,
so it has been hard to investigate it further.
So -- assuming you're still encountering it --
please help us track
this problem down...

What *platform* are you operating on?  (Actual

XO
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machine?)

Please describe, as precisely as possible, a

short
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sequence you've
recorded whose playback exhibits the problem.

If possible, please enclose a ".pr" file that

illustrates the problem.
Getting "off registry" has always been a big
potential problem with
the Event Recorder.  Since an event-recorder
"tape"
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consists
primarily of nothing more than time-stamped mouse
events, with
absolute x-y coordinates, as soon as there is any
disparity between
locations of any objects at the time of the
recording and at the time
of playback, there's the potential for
malfunction.
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The motivation
for the "Event Theatre" (as opposed to the bare
EventRecorder) was
specifically to minimize such problems by
assuring
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that recording and
playback take place in circumstances that are
made
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to be compatible.
If there's really a bug here, we need to catch
it.
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So hopefully you,
or perhaps some other readers of this list, can
help
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us isolate it.
Sorry nobody got back to you sooner on this.
Cheers,
-- Scott
On Apr 8, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Phil Dawson wrote:
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Hello Everyone,
While trying to make some "How to" projects
using
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the
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event recorder or the event theater I run into
the
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same problem.  While the record function seams
to
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be
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working when I play back the recording it will
start
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off fine and then start showing commands that I
did
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not select and eventually everything it shows is
wrong.  I am useing etoys-dev-2.0-1217 with the
latest
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updates.  I am not sure but I thought the
recording
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functions were working before the large cursor
update
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was added.
Phil Dawson