I noted the export to PNG/JPG entries disappeared from the Morph menu. Is there a way to get them back ?
Hilaire
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernandes@edu.ge.ch wrote:
I noted the export to PNG/JPG entries disappeared from the Morph menu. Is there a way to get them back ?
it back by setting eToyFriendly off . But I can't figure out why the functionality is "etoys unfriendly"... or just bug?
/Korakurider
Hilaire
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On 20.10.2009, at 11:54, Korakurider wrote:
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernandes@edu.ge.ch wrote:
I noted the export to PNG/JPG entries disappeared from the Morph menu. Is there a way to get them back ?
it back by setting eToyFriendly off . But I can't figure out why the functionality is "etoys unfriendly"... or just bug?
In Sugar these menu items do not export to the Journal. If someone exports it as file, it's very hard to import into another activity. Ask Randy, he tried ;)
Copy-and-paste is more friendly, don't you think? E.g., get halo, press Cmd-C, switch to mail app, press Cmd-P, done:
No file names involved, no searching in which folder it was saved, no worrying about the difference between PNG and JPG.
If you need to save to a file, run Preview, choose "New from Clipboard" (or press Cmd-N), then save in any format you like, including PNG.
I'm *not* saying we couldn't re-enable the export menu items, just explaining why we thought them to be unfriendly except for advanced users who like to deal with files and file names and file formats etc.
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On Tuesday 20 October 2009 03:44:21 pm Bert Freudenberg wrote:
In Sugar these menu items do not export to the Journal. If someone exports it as file, it's very hard to import into another activity. Ask Randy, he tried ;)
Perhaps we should rename the preference to "sugarFriendly" :-).
Copy-and-paste is more friendly, don't you think? E.g., get halo, press Cmd-C, switch to mail app, press Cmd-P, done:
Except that such magic sequences can appear mysterious to many children using a computer for the first time. Even "copy.." functions got lopped off. How about moving file ops from "copy & print" to "export" and leaving "copy" as an operation in both modes?
Subbu
On 20.10.2009, at 12:34, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:
On Tuesday 20 October 2009 03:44:21 pm Bert Freudenberg wrote:
In Sugar these menu items do not export to the Journal. If someone exports it as file, it's very hard to import into another activity. Ask Randy, he tried ;)
Perhaps we should rename the preference to "sugarFriendly" :-)
Hehe :)
Copy-and-paste is more friendly, don't you think? E.g., get halo, press Cmd-C, switch to mail app, press Cmd-P, done:
Except that such magic sequences can appear mysterious to many children using a computer for the first time. Even "copy.." functions got lopped off. How about moving file ops from "copy & print" to "export" and leaving "copy" as an operation in both modes?
Sounds reasonable.
I think a lot of the objections would go away if we fixed http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-134 Having to change preferences every time is just too annoying.
- Bert -
On 20.10.2009, at 12:34, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:
Except that such magic sequences can appear mysterious to many children using a computer for the first time.
Actually, even dragging a Sketch out of the Etoys window into another application is supposed to work. Under Sugar, you can drag something from Etoys into the Sugar frame clipboard.
Does not work on the Mac yet, don't know about Windows, but should work in Linux.
- Bert -
On Tuesday 20 October 2009 03:17:59 pm Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
I noted the export to PNG/JPG entries disappeared from the Morph menu. Is there a way to get them back ?
It is controlled by "etoyFriendly" preference. Turn it off to get it.
Why morphic menu entries like export and copy are considered etoys unfriendly is beyond me :-).
Subbu
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