Beginners August 2014

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by JohnReed Maffeo 31 Aug '14

31 Aug '14

>>Hello, >>I can not figure out how to get scrolling by scroll wheel to work in ScrollPane example2. I have been poking around using explorer to >>try and figure out how the scroll wheel works in the Browser but have not discovered/recognized how it is supposed to work. >>I have built an application based on ScrollPane example2 and it is working well, but it would be nice to get the scroll wheel to work >>before I get started on version 2.0. If I can get scrolling to work in the example, I think I can get it to work in my app. >The scroll wheel actually generates keyboard events (ctrl-up/down/left/right). You need to make sure the ScrollPane gets these keyboard >events. See ScrollPane>>keyStroke:. Or you could call the ScrollPane's scrollByKeyboard: method in your own key stroke handler. >- Bert - Thanks for your prompt reply. I spent most of Saturday trying to put your suggestion to work, but I could not figure out how to get the scroll event to operate on a higher level morph. Scroll wheel / arrow I am working in class ScrollPane to create a new example that demonstrates the behavior I am interested in. in example2, the scroll behavior is active at the lowest level of the morph tree, aTextMorph. I need to know how to tell aTextMorph how to ignore the key events 123, 124, 125, and 126, and then push up to a higher level. The next higher level is aPastUpMorph, next up is aScrollPane. You suggested that I ensure that aScrollPane gets the events but I am at a loss as to where to begin. I did look at ScrollPane's #keystroke: and #scrollByKeyboard: methods and tried several experiments to make things work, but I am still stuck. Any additional suggestions you could make would be greatly appreciated. In the meantime, I am going to start over and see it any lights turn on. Cheers, JohnReed

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How to modify ScrollPane example2 to enable scrolling by scroll wheel?
by JohnReed Maffeo 30 Aug '14

30 Aug '14

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Re: Beginners Digest, Vol 93, Issue 1: object instance browser
by David Holiday 12 Aug '14

12 Aug '14

Thank you everyone for your alacritous responses! I'm finding one of the challenges in learning Smalltalk is not the syntax of the code, nor the general paradigm by which the code is implemented, but understanding the tools well enough to make things happen. I'm an experienced programmer and I'm finding that I'm having to completely rethink the way I go about my work when diddling around with this language. That's not in and of itself a bad thing - just saying I'm thankful for this mailing list :-) David Holiday ------------------------------------------------- San Diego State University neuburge(a)rohan.sdsu.edu On Jan 1, 2014, at 4:00 AM, beginners-request(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org wrote: > Send Beginners mailing list submissions to > beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > beginners-request(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > beginners-owner(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Beginners digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: object instance browser? (Herbert K?nig) > 2. Re: object instance browser? (Chris Muller) > 3. Re: object instance browser? (karl ramberg) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 14:50:55 +0100 > From: Herbert K?nig <herbertkoenig(a)gmx.net> > Subject: Re: [Newbies] object instance browser? > To: beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Message-ID: <52C2CBBF.6050801(a)gmx.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Merci vielmals. > > Am 31.12.2013 11:27, schrieb Bert Freudenberg: >> Yes, multiple ones in fact. This is a major reason working in >> Smalltalk feels more immediate than in other environments. > ...... > Great explanation scrubbed > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 13:02:51 -0600 > From: Chris Muller <asqueaker(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Newbies] object instance browser? > To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions > about Squeak." <beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > Message-ID: > <CANzdToH+hPyJqeBqSdWLwROi5w_SbdAu_G9oWm3BgRkTqa=z9w(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Great post, I learned some new things. > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de> wrote: >> On 31.12.2013, at 08:53, David Holiday <neuburge(a)rohan.sdsu.edu> wrote: >> >>> Is there a way to browse the ecosystem of objects in a Smalltalk image? >> >> Yes, multiple ones in fact. This is a major reason working in Smalltalk feels more immediate than in other environments. >> >>> I'm not talking about the class browser, what I'm looking for is a way to see what objects have actually been instantiated and what their state is. >> >> The basic tool for this is called an Inspector. Whenever you have an expression, like "3 + 4", you press cmd-i to "inspect it", which opens an inspector on the result. This works in any text area. Try for example inspecting "self" in a class browser, and you will inspect the underlying class object (which the browser shows a high-level view of). >> >> In the Inspector you see the objects referenced by this object (via instance variables or indexed fields) in the left panel. Select any of them and choose "inspect" from the context menu (or press cmd-i again). This way you can inspect all the objects in the system. >> >> A more modern tool than the Inspector (which was around 40 years ago already) is the Object Explorer. It presents you a tree view of an object and its "children", which again are the instance variables and indexed fields of the object. Open it with cmd-shift-i (or "explore" in the context menu). >> >> You can also do the reverse. If you choose "objects pointing to this value" you get an inspector showing all the objects that directly point to this object. Similarly there is a "reverse explorer", which you can open by selecting "explore pointers". >> >> There are two roots to all the objects in the system: >> >> Smalltalk specialObjectsArray >> >> which basically holds everything the Virtual Machine needs to know about, and in turn almost every object in the whole image, and >> >> thisContext >> >> which is the current execution context, holding onto temporary objects. When a garbage collection is performed, any object not reachable form either of these two roots is removed from memory. >> >> An "interesting" global object to explore is >> >> Project current >> >> which holds your current workspace, in particular >> >> Project current world >> >> , the root of all morphs in the world. And of course >> >> Smalltalk >> >> itself is the dictionary that holds all global objects, including all classes (unless they are defined in a non-global environment). >> >> There is also a low-level way to enumerate all objects in memory. "self someObject" will return the very first object in memory (which happens to be the nil object), and "anObject nextObject" will return the next one: >> >> | object count | >> count := 0. >> object := self someObject. >> [0 == object] >> whileFalse: [count := count + 1. >> object := object nextObject]. >> count >> >> Interestingly, this also finds objects that are due to be garbage-collected. For example, if you accidentally closed a text window, there is a good chance its contents will still be in memory, and can be retrieved using an expression like >> >> ByteString allInstances last: 10 >> >> This makes use of the someInstance/nextInstance methods, which are similar to someObject/nextObject, but restricted to instances of one class only. >> >> Hope you have fun poking around in the world of objects :) >> >> - Bert - >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Beginners mailing list >> Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 02:23:04 +0100 > From: karl ramberg <karlramberg(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Newbies] object instance browser? > To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions > about Squeak." <beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > Cc: David Holiday <neuburge(a)rohan.sdsu.edu> > Message-ID: > <CAGzzWLgJCGf1AkddemfwwvsRtfaHoHO5R+mRPu5eR4ZQy+iFfw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I do it :-) > > Happy new year! > > Cheers, > Karl > > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de>wrote: > >> Hey, I wrote it, you make the workspace, deal? ;) >> >> Happy New Year, btw. >> >> - Bert - >> >> On 31.12.2013, at 12:37, karl ramberg <karlramberg(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Make a Welcome Workspace with this info :-) >> >> Cheers, >> Karl >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de>wrote: >> >>> On 31.12.2013, at 08:53, David Holiday <neuburge(a)rohan.sdsu.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> Is there a way to browse the ecosystem of objects in a Smalltalk image? >>> >>> Yes, multiple ones in fact. This is a major reason working in Smalltalk >>> feels more immediate than in other environments. >>> >>>> I'm not talking about the class browser, what I'm looking for is a way >>> to see what objects have actually been instantiated and what their state is. >>> >>> The basic tool for this is called an Inspector. Whenever you have an >>> expression, like "3 + 4", you press cmd-i to "inspect it", which opens an >>> inspector on the result. This works in any text area. Try for example >>> inspecting "self" in a class browser, and you will inspect the underlying >>> class object (which the browser shows a high-level view of). >>> >>> In the Inspector you see the objects referenced by this object (via >>> instance variables or indexed fields) in the left panel. Select any of them >>> and choose "inspect" from the context menu (or press cmd-i again). This way >>> you can inspect all the objects in the system. >>> >>> A more modern tool than the Inspector (which was around 40 years ago >>> already) is the Object Explorer. It presents you a tree view of an object >>> and its "children", which again are the instance variables and indexed >>> fields of the object. Open it with cmd-shift-i (or "explore" in the context >>> menu). >>> >>> You can also do the reverse. If you choose "objects pointing to this >>> value" you get an inspector showing all the objects that directly point to >>> this object. Similarly there is a "reverse explorer", which you can open by >>> selecting "explore pointers". >>> >>> There are two roots to all the objects in the system: >>> >>> Smalltalk specialObjectsArray >>> >>> which basically holds everything the Virtual Machine needs to know about, >>> and in turn almost every object in the whole image, and >>> >>> thisContext >>> >>> which is the current execution context, holding onto temporary objects. >>> When a garbage collection is performed, any object not reachable form >>> either of these two roots is removed from memory. >>> >>> An "interesting" global object to explore is >>> >>> Project current >>> >>> which holds your current workspace, in particular >>> >>> Project current world >>> >>> , the root of all morphs in the world. And of course >>> >>> Smalltalk >>> >>> itself is the dictionary that holds all global objects, including all >>> classes (unless they are defined in a non-global environment). >>> >>> There is also a low-level way to enumerate all objects in memory. "self >>> someObject" will return the very first object in memory (which happens to >>> be the nil object), and "anObject nextObject" will return the next one: >>> >>> | object count | >>> count := 0. >>> object := self someObject. >>> [0 == object] >>> whileFalse: [count := count + 1. >>> object := object nextObject]. >>> count >>> >>> Interestingly, this also finds objects that are due to be >>> garbage-collected. For example, if you accidentally closed a text window, >>> there is a good chance its contents will still be in memory, and can be >>> retrieved using an expression like >>> >>> ByteString allInstances last: 10 >>> >>> This makes use of the someInstance/nextInstance methods, which are >>> similar to someObject/nextObject, but restricted to instances of one class >>> only. >>> >>> Hope you have fun poking around in the world of objects :) >>> >>> - Bert - >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Beginners mailing list >>> Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Beginners mailing list >> Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Beginners mailing list >> Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners >> >> >

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Save a class comment in Unix Squeak 4.5 leads to 'RemoteString past end of file'
by David Corking 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

I can't save class comments. I get 'RemoteString past end of file' which seems to be a failed attempt to write to the changes file. Any attempt to use the class browser after that causes the same error message. I downloaded the All-in-One package, and updated the image, but still have the same error. SqueakDebug.log at https://gist.github.com/dcorking/37540a86c1d3623c2b7a I am using an x86-64 PC with 64-bit Fedora 20. As far as I can tell I have the 32 bit OS libraries installed. (Is there a command to confirm that Squeak can find all the 32 bit libraries it needs?) What should my next troubleshooting step be? Best, David

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