I have just installed Squeak on my FreeBSD box, a bit more capable than the limited OLPC in which I discovered it as a part of Etoys. Problem is that Squeak gives no clue how to address a Midi file so that it can be edited. I am not a developer, just a hopeful user. Ideas? Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY
Hello Charles,
CB> I have just installed Squeak on my FreeBSD box, a bit more capable than CB> the limited OLPC in which I discovered it as a part of Etoys. Problem CB> is that Squeak gives no clue how to address a Midi file so that it can CB> be edited. I am not a developer, just a hopeful user. Ideas?
back in 3.6 times when the people doing the release work in Squeak were thinking more about users than about developers (no offense or criticism to the people currently doing the work!) Squeak had a project "The worlds of Squeak" inside it a Project "Music" to show off Swueak's musical tools. Inside that you would find a project "More about sound".
In there is a text "More sound, Music and Speech". At the bottom you will find a paragraph "Writing your own midi scores".
So I suggest you get yourself a Squeak3.6 full from http://ftp.squeak.org read the texts and play and then try what still works in current images.
You will find the tools in the World menu, "Objects" "Multimedia", but I think you should read the texts in the old image. Maybe older images contain even more.
BTW you can use the 3.x images with your recent VM. For older images you need the VM packaged with the image.
At Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:48:46 -0500 (EST), Charles Bacon wrote:
I have just installed Squeak on my FreeBSD box, a bit more capable than the limited OLPC in which I discovered it as a part of Etoys. Problem is that Squeak gives no clue how to address a Midi file so that it can be edited. I am not a developer, just a hopeful user. Ideas? Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com
Ah, there may be some misunderstandings:
- In regards to sound editing capability, nothing has really changed in the Etoys image. Open a .mid file from the FileList or click on the load button in the menu bar to navigate to the file and press "open". There, you can open the piano roll. You can drag the "notes", and add new notes if you "add keyboard" from the context menu of piano roll.
- To get more developers' like features, you can set the eToyFriendly preferences off. From the World's halo menu, choose preferences. Then, type something like "etoy" into the panel and turn off the eToyFriendly off.
-- Yoshiki
El 10/29/08 6:51 PM, "Yoshiki Ohshima" yoshiki@vpri.org escribió:
Charles Bacon wrote:
I have just installed Squeak on my FreeBSD box, a bit more capable than the limited OLPC in which I discovered it as a part of Etoys. Problem is that Squeak gives no clue how to address a Midi file so that it can be edited. I am not a developer, just a hopeful user. Ideas? Chuck Bacon -- crtb@cape.com
Ah, there may be some misunderstandings:
In regards to sound editing capability, nothing has really changed in the Etoys image. Open a .mid file from the FileList or click on the load button in the menu bar to navigate to the file and press "open". There, you can open the piano roll. You can drag the "notes", and add new notes if you "add keyboard" from the context menu of piano roll.
To get more developers' like features, you can set the eToyFriendly preferences off. From the World's halo menu, choose preferences. Then, type something like "etoy" into the panel and turn off the eToyFriendly off.
-- Yoshiki
back in 3.6 times when the people doing the release work in Squeak were thinking more about users than about developers (no offense or criticism to the people currently doing the work!) Squeak had a project "The worlds of Squeak" inside it a Project "Music" to show off Swueak's musical tools. Inside that you would find a project "More about sound".
In there is a text "More sound, Music and Speech". At the bottom you will find a paragraph "Writing your own midi scores".
So I suggest you get yourself a Squeak3.6 full from http://ftp.squeak.org read the texts and play and then try what still works in current images.
You will find the tools in the World menu, "Objects" "Multimedia", but I think you should read the texts in the old image. Maybe older images contain even more.
BTW you can use the 3.x images with your recent VM. For older images you need the VM packaged with the image.
To info of Yoshiki and Herbert I add. In 3.10 all related to .mid is still in the image and also on my SqueakLightII. You don't need reload any. I don't think a .pr of 3.6 times as was could run, others things like Speech is not on "base" image now. But any morph still in the image , as ScorePlayerMorph works same as in older times.
I just check on
Writing your own midi scores To try this out, execute...
| n score | n := 3."number of tracks" score:= (MIDIScore new tracks: ((1 to: n) collect: [:i | Array new]); trackInfo: ((1 to: n) collect: [:i | 'Instrument' , i printString]); tempoMap: nil; ticksPerQuarterNote: 96). ScorePlayerMorph openOn: score title: 'My score'
And works , as ever.
If you like music, I strong advice to check this
http://www.zogotounga.net/comp/squeak/sqgeo.htm
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