I am trying to edit a page but I can't find the place to create a user account.
When I click the edit button in some page from the wiki, Iceweasel (Debian's unbranded Firefox) ask for a username and a password.
When I click the history button, I get a list of changes and in the user column I see strings like:
ACCF7AF4.ipt.aol.com
so this makes me think that the edition of pages it is open and your IP address is used as your username. But, the problem is, I can't pass the user/password request.
The user/password dialog says:
http://wiki.squeak.org solicita un usuario y contraseña. El sitio dice: "/squeak/*"
Something like:
http://wiki.squeak.org needs a username and password. The site says: "/squeak/*"
And if I click the cancel button it responds with:
Unauthorized for: /squeak/*
Can you please tell me what is the process to edit a page in the wiki.squeak.org?
Thanks, Miguel Cobá
Username: viewpoints password: squeak
Described on: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez m.coba.m@gmail.com wrote:
I am trying to edit a page but I can't find the place to create a user account.
When I click the edit button in some page from the wiki, Iceweasel (Debian's unbranded Firefox) ask for a username and a password.
When I click the history button, I get a list of changes and in the user column I see strings like:
ACCF7AF4.ipt.aol.com
so this makes me think that the edition of pages it is open and your IP address is used as your username. But, the problem is, I can't pass the user/password request.
The user/password dialog says:
http://wiki.squeak.org solicita un usuario y contraseña. El sitio dice: "/squeak/*"
Something like:
http://wiki.squeak.org needs a username and password. The site says: "/squeak/*"
And if I click the cancel button it responds with:
Unauthorized for: /squeak/*
Can you please tell me what is the process to edit a page in the wiki.squeak.org?
Thanks, Miguel Cobá _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Hello,
There is no account neccecary. It is a wiki and so everybody can edit it.
username: squeak password: viewpoints
Josef Vukovic wrote:
Hello,
There is no account neccecary. It is a wiki and so everybody can edit it.
username: squeak password: viewpoints
Thanks, David and Josef, I only read the section "About this Site" in the first page of the swiki and the "Acceptable Use" page, but I couldn't find a hint about this.
Maybe I should add this information to the first page too.
Regards, Miguel Cobá
Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Currently, according to the Squeak Swiki entry for "Squeak Documentation Team" [1] (see http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808), editing the Swiki is protected by a very simple common password protection scheme, as follows:
The Swiki is password-protected to discourage vandalism.
- Username: squeak
- Password: viewpoints
Unfortunately, when a user clicks the "history" link at the top of an Swiki page, the user obtains a list of changes with the users listed by IP address/DNS entry, for example, as follows:
chfwpr03.ch.intel.com
However, this does not allow a unique identifier to be associated with a user if the user logs in from multiple IP addresses/DNS entries. For example, I have a Macintosh at home and a Wintel machine at work, and I wish to associate a unique identifier to updates that I make from both machines.
This would allow me to certify authorship for any articles that I write, providing additional motivation to write more entries.
Is there any way to associate a unique user identifier, listed in the page that is generated when the "history" button at the top of an Swiki entry is clicked, to all edits that I make to the Swiki? If not, are there any plans for this in the future?
(Otherwise, for example, it is not clear how to attribute changes conveniently for universal edits; in particular, it is not clear how to attribute changes conveniently for inline edits in large blocks of text, where there is no convenient surrounding text to place a username; or for minor but significant punctuational changes, such as substituting a semicolon for a comma, where the space occupied by a manually inserted entry claiming authorship would significantly exceed the space occupied by the change itself--a rather inelegant solution; there should be a way to claim credit for Swiki contributions.)
-- Benjamin L. Russell
[1] Fulmer, Matthew, Aaron Reichow, Andrew Lawson, and Max OrHai. "Squeak Documentation Team." _Squeak Swiki._ Squeak.org. 8 June 2007. 17 July 2009. http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:17:19 -0600, Miguel Enrique Coba Martinez m.coba.m@gmail.com wrote:
I am trying to edit a page but I can't find the place to create a user account.
When I click the edit button in some page from the wiki, Iceweasel (Debian's unbranded Firefox) ask for a username and a password.
When I click the history button, I get a list of changes and in the user column I see strings like:
ACCF7AF4.ipt.aol.com
so this makes me think that the edition of pages it is open and your IP address is used as your username. But, the problem is, I can't pass the user/password request.
The user/password dialog says:
http://wiki.squeak.org solicita un usuario y contrasena. El sitio dice: "/squeak/*"
Something like:
http://wiki.squeak.org needs a username and password. The site says: "/squeak/*"
And if I click the cancel button it responds with:
Unauthorized for: /squeak/*
Can you please tell me what is the process to edit a page in the wiki.squeak.org?
Thanks, Miguel Coba
El vie, 17-07-2009 a las 14:53 +0900, Benjamin L.Russell escribió:
Currently, according to the Squeak Swiki entry for "Squeak Documentation Team" [1] (see http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808), editing the Swiki is protected by a very simple common password protection scheme, as follows:
The Swiki is password-protected to discourage vandalism.
- Username: squeak
- Password: viewpoints
Unfortunately, when a user clicks the "history" link at the top of an Swiki page, the user obtains a list of changes with the users listed by IP address/DNS entry, for example, as follows:
chfwpr03.ch.intel.com
However, this does not allow a unique identifier to be associated with a user if the user logs in from multiple IP addresses/DNS entries. For example, I have a Macintosh at home and a Wintel machine at work, and I wish to associate a unique identifier to updates that I make from both machines.
This was discussed in the squeak board blog a few weeks ago. I pointed that we need a better platform for the wiki, one where the users are more inclined to contibute, even if the platform isn't made with smalltalk. I think that the board is open to use other technologies but I feel that there is a bias towards smalltalk technologies. I don't care of the technology (almost, but at least free software) while it have the capabilities and functionality necessary for the job. I think that the swiki lacks a *lot* of features you can find in several wiki platforms of today. Also, the smalltalk community doesn't have the people and resources to rewrite and be on par to other wikis. But that is just my opinion. The board has the last word.
Cheers, Miguel Cobá
This would allow me to certify authorship for any articles that I write, providing additional motivation to write more entries.
Is there any way to associate a unique user identifier, listed in the page that is generated when the "history" button at the top of an Swiki entry is clicked, to all edits that I make to the Swiki? If not, are there any plans for this in the future?
(Otherwise, for example, it is not clear how to attribute changes conveniently for universal edits; in particular, it is not clear how to attribute changes conveniently for inline edits in large blocks of text, where there is no convenient surrounding text to place a username; or for minor but significant punctuational changes, such as substituting a semicolon for a comma, where the space occupied by a manually inserted entry claiming authorship would significantly exceed the space occupied by the change itself--a rather inelegant solution; there should be a way to claim credit for Swiki contributions.)
-- Benjamin L. Russell
[1] Fulmer, Matthew, Aaron Reichow, Andrew Lawson, and Max OrHai. "Squeak Documentation Team." _Squeak Swiki._ Squeak.org. 8 June 2007. 17 July 2009. http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:17:19 -0600, Miguel Enrique Coba Martinez m.coba.m@gmail.com wrote:
I am trying to edit a page but I can't find the place to create a user account.
When I click the edit button in some page from the wiki, Iceweasel (Debian's unbranded Firefox) ask for a username and a password.
When I click the history button, I get a list of changes and in the user column I see strings like:
ACCF7AF4.ipt.aol.com
so this makes me think that the edition of pages it is open and your IP address is used as your username. But, the problem is, I can't pass the user/password request.
The user/password dialog says:
http://wiki.squeak.org solicita un usuario y contrasena. El sitio dice: "/squeak/*"
Something like:
http://wiki.squeak.org needs a username and password. The site says: "/squeak/*"
And if I click the cancel button it responds with:
Unauthorized for: /squeak/*
Can you please tell me what is the process to edit a page in the wiki.squeak.org?
Thanks, Miguel Coba
I doubt there is much bias to starting something new. I use the Swiki because it is there. Put something else up (but don't take away the swiki). The internet is awash with free providers of such things.
As to a unique identifier. The right unique identifier on a wiki is a page. The approach from Ward's original WikiWikiWeb (where much of the original Squeak wiki content was hosted before we had a wiki server). Create a page for yourself and then add a link to pages you edit.
For example, my page is: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/17
If you go to that page, you can see the pages I've signed.
If you go to those pages, you can see a link to my page.
I wish to associate a unique identifier to updates that I make from both machines.
This was discussed in the squeak board blog a few weeks ago. I pointed that we need a better platform for the wiki, one where the users are more inclined to contibute, even if the platform isn't made with smalltalk. I think that the board is open to use other technologies but I feel that there is a bias towards smalltalk technologies. I don't care of the technology (almost, but at least free software) while it have the capabilities and functionality necessary for the job. I think that the swiki lacks a *lot* of features you can find in several wiki platforms of today. Also, the smalltalk community doesn't have the people and resources to rewrite and be on par to other wikis. But that is just my opinion. The board has the last word.
Cheers, Miguel Cobá
This would allow me to certify authorship for any articles that I write, providing additional motivation to write more entries.
Is there any way to associate a unique user identifier, listed in the page that is generated when the "history" button at the top of an Swiki entry is clicked, to all edits that I make to the Swiki? If not, are there any plans for this in the future?
(Otherwise, for example, it is not clear how to attribute changes conveniently for universal edits; in particular, it is not clear how to attribute changes conveniently for inline edits in large blocks of text, where there is no convenient surrounding text to place a username; or for minor but significant punctuational changes, such as substituting a semicolon for a comma, where the space occupied by a manually inserted entry claiming authorship would significantly exceed the space occupied by the change itself--a rather inelegant solution; there should be a way to claim credit for Swiki contributions.)
-- Benjamin L. Russell
[1] Fulmer, Matthew, Aaron Reichow, Andrew Lawson, and Max OrHai. "Squeak Documentation Team." _Squeak Swiki._ Squeak.org. 8 June 2007. 17 July 2009. http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:17:19 -0600, Miguel Enrique Coba Martinez m.coba.m@gmail.com wrote:
I am trying to edit a page but I can't find the place to create a user account.
When I click the edit button in some page from the wiki, Iceweasel (Debian's unbranded Firefox) ask for a username and a password.
When I click the history button, I get a list of changes and in the user column I see strings like:
ACCF7AF4.ipt.aol.com
so this makes me think that the edition of pages it is open and your IP address is used as your username. But, the problem is, I can't pass the user/password request.
The user/password dialog says:
http://wiki.squeak.org solicita un usuario y contrasena. El sitio dice: "/squeak/*"
Something like:
http://wiki.squeak.org needs a username and password. The site says: "/squeak/*"
And if I click the cancel button it responds with:
Unauthorized for: /squeak/*
Can you please tell me what is the process to edit a page in the wiki.squeak.org?
Thanks, Miguel Coba
Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:12:56 -0500, David Mitchell david.mitchell@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
As to a unique identifier. The right unique identifier on a wiki is a page. The approach from Ward's original WikiWikiWeb (where much of the original Squeak wiki content was hosted before we had a wiki server). Create a page for yourself and then add a link to pages you edit.
For example, my page is: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/17
If you go to that page, you can see the pages I've signed.
If you go to those pages, you can see a link to my page.
Mutual links would work for most cases. It wouldn't necessarily work for multiple one-character typo corrections, though (such as changing the position of a comma in a sentence), since then the space occupied by the correction would be exceeded by the space occupied by the crediting.
For example, suppose there were a hypothetical page "Foo" at the hypothetical address of http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/9999 with the following hypothetical sentence:
See foos comprising bars comprising bazs. -- J. Random Hacker
At first, thinking that foos comprised bars, which comprised bazs, Fred Foobar edited it as follows, and adds a comment about the edit inline:
See foos, comprising bars comprising bazs. -- J. Random Hacker (edited by Fred Foobar on Sun 01 Jan 2010 01:01:01 -0500: added commas after "foos".)
But then Suzie Cobol decides that maybe it was really foos comprising bars, which as a combination together comprised bazs, so she changes the sentence to read as follows, and adds another comment about the edit inline:
See foos comprising bars, comprising bazs. -- J. Random Hacker (edited by Fred Foobar on Fri 01 Jan 2010 01:01:01 -0500: added commas after "foos". (re-edited by Suzie Cobol on Sat 02 Jan 2010 02:02:02 -0500: moved comma after "foos" to after "bazs".))
By now, the sentence has become hard to read because of all the inline credits.
Since each edit changes the meaning of the sentence significantly, it should be credited with the name of the editor and the time and data of the edit. However, each such credit vastly exceeds the space of the edit itself.
A separate page listing edits would solve this problem; mutual links would not. For example, Wikipedia lists the page for "foobar" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo, and the revision history page for "foobar" separately, at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foobar&action=history.
-- Benjamin L. Russell
I wish to associate a unique identifier to updates that I make from both machines.
This was discussed in the squeak board blog a few weeks ago. I pointed that we need a better platform for the wiki, one where the users are more inclined to contibute, even if the platform isn't made with smalltalk. I think that the board is open to use other technologies but I feel that there is a bias towards smalltalk technologies. I don't care of the technology (almost, but at least free software) while it have the capabilities and functionality necessary for the job. I think that the swiki lacks a *lot* of features you can find in several wiki platforms of today. Also, the smalltalk community doesn't have the people and resources to rewrite and be on par to other wikis. But that is just my opinion. The board has the last word.
Cheers, Miguel Coba
This would allow me to certify authorship for any articles that I write, providing additional motivation to write more entries.
Is there any way to associate a unique user identifier, listed in the page that is generated when the "history" button at the top of an Swiki entry is clicked, to all edits that I make to the Swiki? ?If not, are there any plans for this in the future?
(Otherwise, for example, it is not clear how to attribute changes conveniently for universal edits; in particular, it is not clear how to attribute changes conveniently for inline edits in large blocks of text, where there is no convenient surrounding text to place a username; or for minor but significant punctuational changes, such as substituting a semicolon for a comma, where the space occupied by a manually inserted entry claiming authorship would significantly exceed the space occupied by the change itself--a rather inelegant solution; there should be a way to claim credit for Swiki contributions.)
-- Benjamin L. Russell
[1] Fulmer, Matthew, Aaron Reichow, Andrew Lawson, and Max OrHai. "Squeak Documentation Team." _Squeak Swiki._ Squeak.org. 8 June 2007. 17 July 2009. http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:17:19 -0600, Miguel Enrique Coba Martinez m.coba.m@gmail.com wrote:
I am trying to edit a page but I can't find the place to create a user account.
When I click the edit button in some page from the wiki, Iceweasel (Debian's unbranded Firefox) ask for a username and a password.
When I click the history button, I get a list of changes and in the user column I see strings like:
ACCF7AF4.ipt.aol.com
so this makes me think that the edition of pages it is open and your IP address is used as your username. But, the problem is, I can't pass the user/password request.
The user/password dialog says:
http://wiki.squeak.org solicita un usuario y contrasena. El sitio dice: "/squeak/*"
Something like:
http://wiki.squeak.org needs a username and password. The site says: "/squeak/*"
And if I click the cancel button it responds with:
Unauthorized for: /squeak/*
Can you please tell me what is the process to edit a page in the wiki.squeak.org?
Thanks, Miguel Coba
Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Since each edit changes the meaning of the sentence significantly, it should be credited with the name of the editor and the time and data of the edit. However, each such credit vastly exceeds the space of the edit itself.
I think you are solving a hypothetical problem. Something that arcane would probably need more than the single letter to note the meaning of the change.
But, if you think this is a barrier keeping the wiki back, what is your solution?
Is there some other wiki software that solves this issue? Or forum software?
Just today Canonical released the Launchpad source code as GPL.
http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/07/21/1224259/Canonical-Fully-Open-Sources...
This is another option to consider in the path to better the squeak infrastructure.
Miguel Cobá
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:52 AM, David Mitchelldavid.mitchell@gmail.com wrote:
Since each edit changes the meaning of the sentence significantly, it should be credited with the name of the editor and the time and data of the edit. However, each such credit vastly exceeds the space of the edit itself.
I think you are solving a hypothetical problem. Something that arcane would probably need more than the single letter to note the meaning of the change.
But, if you think this is a barrier keeping the wiki back, what is your solution?
Is there some other wiki software that solves this issue? Or forum software? _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:52:42 -0500, David Mitchell david.mitchell@gmail.com wrote:
Since each edit changes the meaning of the sentence significantly, it should be credited with the name of the editor and the time and data of the edit. ?However, each such credit vastly exceeds the space of the edit itself.
I think you are solving a hypothetical problem. Something that arcane would probably need more than the single letter to note the meaning of the change.
But, if you think this is a barrier keeping the wiki back, what is your solution?
Is there some other wiki software that solves this issue? Or forum software?
MediaWiki [1] provides this kind of functionality, and powers Wikipedia. Other programming language wikis powered by MediaWiki include HaskellWiki [2] and Clean Wiki [3] as well.
I have used all three wikis extensively, and find this tool extremely convenient for wiki editing. In addition to providing a separate revision history page for each wiki page, it provides various kinds of markup tools, useful for highlighting and referencing.
Since each change is automatically logged and listed and can be summarized, the tool provides motivation for contributors to submit even minor edits and corrections, in addition to new material, and since each edited version can be compared for changes with the previous version and undone, it discourages vandalism. I usually look for a relevant wiki based on this system whenever I need to contribute material on a programming language.
-- Benjamin L. Russell
[1] Manske, Magnus, Brion Vibber, Lee Daniel Crocker, Tim Starling, Erik Mo"ller et al. "MediaWiki." MediaWiki.org. 16 Aug. 2005. 22 July 2009. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki.
[2] "Version - HaskellWiki." HaskellWiki. Haskell.org. 1 Jan. 2006. 22 July 2009. http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Special:Version.
[3] "Version - clean." Clean Wiki. Software Technology Research Group. 13 Feb. 2008. 22 July 2009. http://wiki.clean.cs.ru.nl/Special:Version.
I would recommend starting a new Squeak MediaWiki wiki as a test. Are there free providers of MediaWiki to use in the interim?
For content, watch the recent changes on the current wiki (or better yet, ask for the current wiki logs and look at what is getting read). Every time a page is edited (read), move the content to the MediaWiki and review for accuracy. (I think Andreas proposed a wiki-garbage collection approach like this).
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Benjamin L. RussellDekuDekuplex@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:52:42 -0500, David Mitchell david.mitchell@gmail.com wrote:
Since each edit changes the meaning of the sentence significantly, it should be credited with the name of the editor and the time and data of the edit. ?However, each such credit vastly exceeds the space of the edit itself.
I think you are solving a hypothetical problem. Something that arcane would probably need more than the single letter to note the meaning of the change.
But, if you think this is a barrier keeping the wiki back, what is your solution?
Is there some other wiki software that solves this issue? Or forum software?
MediaWiki [1] provides this kind of functionality, and powers Wikipedia. Other programming language wikis powered by MediaWiki include HaskellWiki [2] and Clean Wiki [3] as well.
I have used all three wikis extensively, and find this tool extremely convenient for wiki editing. In addition to providing a separate revision history page for each wiki page, it provides various kinds of markup tools, useful for highlighting and referencing.
Since each change is automatically logged and listed and can be summarized, the tool provides motivation for contributors to submit even minor edits and corrections, in addition to new material, and since each edited version can be compared for changes with the previous version and undone, it discourages vandalism. I usually look for a relevant wiki based on this system whenever I need to contribute material on a programming language.
-- Benjamin L. Russell
[1] Manske, Magnus, Brion Vibber, Lee Daniel Crocker, Tim Starling, Erik Mo"ller et al. "MediaWiki." MediaWiki.org. 16 Aug. 2005. 22 July 2009. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki.
[2] "Version - HaskellWiki." HaskellWiki. Haskell.org. 1 Jan. 2006. 22 July 2009. http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Special:Version.
[3] "Version - clean." Clean Wiki. Software Technology Research Group. 13 Feb. 2008. 22 July 2009.
http://wiki.clean.cs.ru.nl/Special:Version.
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I am an interested bystander. Might I suggest a few avenues to explore?
(1) Pier ====== Pier might support a history feature. Read the second bullet in Lukas's announcement: http://www.iam.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/2006-February/001688.html
(2) Literate programming =================== The concept of literate programming overlaps with the idea of documenting Squeak with a wiki.
(a) The tools to include hypertext in Squeak source code seem to be underused. (This under-use was discussed at squeak-dev many times, so perhaps this is not fixable.) Perhaps an interesting longer term project for a student would be to evaluate and implement a way to expose the source code hypertext on the web. Since the documentation is in Squeak, changesets and source control systems always record your initials or name.
(I understand that the concept has been proven by John McIntosh and friends: his company already ships Squeak sourcecode in the form of a wiki for iPhones and iPods: http://www.mobilewikiserver.com/SqueakDocs.html I guess they made a captive presentation of the Seaside code browser: http://seaside.st/about/screenshots )
(b) There are currently four demos of executable Smalltalk source code embedded in documentation in this MediaWiki site: http://en.literateprograms.org/Category:Programming_language:Smalltalk
(3) MediaWiki =========== David Mitchell wrote:
Are there free providers of MediaWiki to use in the interim?
If you can't come to an arrangement with literateprograms.org, and you don't mind advert sharecropping, you could try http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Special:CreateWiki
Hope that helps, David
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:02:31 -0500, David Mitchell david.mitchell@gmail.com wrote:
I would recommend starting a new Squeak MediaWiki wiki as a test. Are there free providers of MediaWiki to use in the interim?
According to the article [1] "Get Google Apps for Free without Buying a Web Domain," by Amit Agarwal, in _Digital Inspiration_ (see http://www.labnol.org/internet/google-apps-without-web-domain/6456/), Dreamhost Apps (see http://dreamhostapps.com/) has started offering free hosting for various Web-based services, including MediaWiki:
Dreamhost Apps offers free hosting for WordPress.org, MediaWiki, Drupal and other LAMP software.
The following services are currently available:
* MediaWiki * WordPress * Drupal * ZenPhoto * phpBB * Google Calendar * Google Docs * Google Sites * iGoogle
According to their registration page (see https://panel.dreamhostapps.com/signup/?), they currently offer the following three options:
1) free domain name registration using the domain name format <yoursite.DreamHosters.com>
2) free domain hosting using an existing domain name
3) fee-based domain name registration for $9.95/year
I would recommend registering a domain name using a free provider, then registering that domain name through them to use their services for free.
I've run out of time for today, but I could check for free domain name registering separately next week if nobody else knows of a reputable and reliable free domain name registration service.
-- Benjamin L. Russell
[1] Agarwal, Amit. "Get Google Apps for Free without Buying a Web Domain." _Digital Inspiration._ 29 Jan. 2009. 24 July 2009. http://www.labnol.org/internet/google-apps-without-web-domain/6456/.
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Benjamin L. RussellDekuDekuplex@yahoo.com wrote:
I would recommend registering a domain name using a free provider, then registering that domain name through them to use their services for free.
I've run out of time for today, but I could check for free domain name registering separately next week if nobody else knows of a reputable and reliable free domain name registration service.
I think you would be doing *all* of this on your own initially. Once you moved created enough momentum showing the new wiki was better than the old wiki, you will attract followers. Over time, the new wiki would naturally replace the old.
For me, when I'm really concerned about getting credit for my writing, I post to my blog.
I'm going to continue contributing to the old wiki, signing my name where I want to leave attribution. But, if something better comes along, I'll happily contribute there.
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:51:10 +0900, Benjamin L. Russell DekuDekuplex@Yahoo.com wrote:
[...]
According to their registration page (see https://panel.dreamhostapps.com/signup/?), they currently offer the following three options:
- free domain name registration using the domain name format
<yoursite.DreamHosters.com>
free domain hosting using an existing domain name
fee-based domain name registration for $9.95/year
I would recommend registering a domain name using a free provider, then registering that domain name through them to use their services for free.
On second thought, according to a comment by a user named "techlee" at the article [1], Dreamhost apparently does not treat their customers decently:
Dreamhost has a very autocratic way of functioning. They treat their customers very badly. If you get some sudden traffic spurt, they just remove your site and then you can just keep on emaling them like mad and wait for days . I have had a Very Bad Experience with them. I would not use even a free service from them..
Written by techlee on 01.12.09
Perhaps I should keep searching....
-- Benjamin L. Russell
[1] techlee. Comment on article "Get Google Apps for Free without Buying a Web Domain." _Digital Inspiration._ 29 Jan. 2009. 24 July 2009. http://www.labnol.org/internet/google-apps-without-web-domain/6456/.
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