On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Craig Latta craig@netjam.org wrote:

Hoi Tobias--

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Probably Craig can [check the Mac signature on the current release of the Squeak 4.5 app]. Craig?

 Hm, yes, that Gatekeeper error is what you get when Gatekeeper is

turned on and allows apps signed by identified developers, but the app signature doesn't correspond to the contents. The manual Gatekeeper override (opening the app from the menu get by control-clicking or right-clicking) doesn't work. The only way to open such an app is to turn Gatekeeper off. However, after the first time you open it, you can always open it, regardless of Gatekeeper's state after that. See [1].

 Just when all that seems intelligible (albeit annoying), there's a

new wrinkle with Mac OS 10.9.5. Oh joy! :) Apparently you can no longer have arbitrary things (like super-evil malicious code, or super-helpful documentation) floating around the app folder tree outside the "Resources" folder. I had to move all that stuff (in this case, the host-dependent-but-non-Macish code and resources) before I could sign it again.

This is a big problem for the All-In-One. The purpose of the All-In-One is to be *accessible* to the widest possible audience. This new structure makes it not very user-friendly for new Squeak users using Windows or Linux.

Before, everything was in the root folder, and Windows users would recognize "squeak.exe" while Linux users would recognize "squeak.sh". Mac users had whatever they needed. Now, are you saying those folks are supposed navigate down into the ./Squeak-4.5-All-in-One.app/Contents/hostDependentNonMac directory to look for the executable and .sh file?

Wait, I'm not seeing squeak.sh at all anywhere..

We probably need to discuss this. I'm not sure I understand the point of an All-In-One that is as hard for a new user to figure out as simply downloading the individual pieces or maybe 3 separate downloads one per OS or maybe just go back to the old All-In-One format but call it Windows/Linux make Mac separate..?

 I imagine there will be differing opinions about where that stuff

should go and what it should be called, but in the meantime I made a choice, fixed the start.sh script for Linux, signed the app, and put it at [2].

 thanks,

-C

[1] http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5290 [2] http://bit.ly/1CBwx1I (Dropbox)

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