Hello
I would like to load the Vivide IDE in the yet to be released Squeak 4.6. (Preview here http://ftp.squeak.org/4.6/Squeak-4.6-All-in-One.zip)
On the Squeak ML I got the answer that I have to execute
Metacello new baseline: 'Vivide'; repository: 'github://hpi-swa/vivide/repository'; load: #(dev). (Smalltalk classNamed: 'ViScriptArchive') mergeAll.
in a workspace.
However if I do that I get the answer 'Unknown variable - Metacello, please correct or cancel'.
How do I bring Squeak 4.6 into a state where MetaCello is known?
Kind regards
Hannes Hirzel
Metacello can be loaded into Squeak 4.6 like this: https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work
"Get the Metacello configuration (for Squeak users)" Installer gemsource project: 'metacello'; addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; install.
"Bootstrap Metacello Preview, using mcz files (#'previewBootstrap' symbolic version" ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) project version: #'previewBootstrap') load.
"Load the Preview version of Metacello from GitHub" (Smalltalk at: #Metacello) new configuration: 'MetacelloPreview'; version: #stable; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/metacello-work:configuration'; load. "Now load latest version of Metacello" Metacello new baseline: 'Metacello'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/metacello-work:master/repository'; get. Metacello new baseline: 'Metacello'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/metacello-work:master/repository'; onConflict: [:ex | ex allow]; load.
Just do-it one code snippet after another in a workspace. Then:
Metacello new baseline: 'Vivide'; repository: 'github://hpi-swa/vivide/repository'; load.
For more examples, load the package VivideScripts: https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/tree/master/repository/VivideScripts.packa...
I think this last step might work via the Monticello Browser tools.
Best, Marcel
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Loading went fine.
I opened an 'Animated Morphic' project and wanted to add a class as shown in the video
https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/blob/master/howto/howto-createclass.gif
However the result I got was different, see attached screen shot.
Is there something missing?
On 7/14/15, marcel.taeumel Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
Metacello can be loaded into Squeak 4.6 like this: https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work
"Get the Metacello configuration (for Squeak users)" Installer gemsource project: 'metacello'; addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; install.
"Bootstrap Metacello Preview, using mcz files (#'previewBootstrap' symbolic version" ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) project version: #'previewBootstrap') load.
"Load the Preview version of Metacello from GitHub" (Smalltalk at: #Metacello) new configuration: 'MetacelloPreview'; version: #stable; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/metacello-work:configuration'; load. "Now load latest version of Metacello" Metacello new baseline: 'Metacello'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/metacello-work:master/repository'; get. Metacello new baseline: 'Metacello'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/metacello-work:master/repository'; onConflict: [:ex | ex allow]; load.
Just do-it one code snippet after another in a workspace. Then:
Metacello new baseline: 'Vivide'; repository: 'github://hpi-swa/vivide/repository'; load.
For more examples, load the package VivideScripts: https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/tree/master/repository/VivideScripts.packa...
I think this last step might work via the Monticello Browser tools.
Best, Marcel
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P.S. It would be helpful to have a ready-made Squeak 4.6 all-in-one with Vivide preinstalled.
--HH
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Loading went fine.
I opened an 'Animated Morphic' project and wanted to add a class as shown in the video
https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/blob/master/howto/howto-createclass.gif
However the result I got was different, see attached screen shot.
Is there something missing?
On 7/14/15, marcel.taeumel Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
Metacello can be loaded into Squeak 4.6 like this: https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work
"Get the Metacello configuration (for Squeak users)" Installer gemsource project: 'metacello'; addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfMetacello'; install.
"Bootstrap Metacello Preview, using mcz files (#'previewBootstrap' symbolic version" ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMetacello) project version: #'previewBootstrap') load.
"Load the Preview version of Metacello from GitHub" (Smalltalk at: #Metacello) new configuration: 'MetacelloPreview'; version: #stable; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/metacello-work:configuration'; load. "Now load latest version of Metacello" Metacello new baseline: 'Metacello'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/metacello-work:master/repository'; get. Metacello new baseline: 'Metacello'; repository: 'github://dalehenrich/metacello-work:master/repository'; onConflict: [:ex | ex allow]; load.
Just do-it one code snippet after another in a workspace. Then:
Metacello new baseline: 'Vivide'; repository: 'github://hpi-swa/vivide/repository'; load.
For more examples, load the package VivideScripts: https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/tree/master/repository/VivideScripts.packa...
I think this last step might work via the Monticello Browser tools.
Best, Marcel
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Most of the time, you are dragging objects around. In this case, it is a block that contains the instructions to create that (other) object. If this is the case anywhere, just hit 'e' while dragging the object to evaluate it before dropping it.
Another drag-modifier is 's', which lets you script any dropped objects directly.
If you drag long enough, there will be a hint about possible drag modifiers in the bottom-right corner.
Best, Marcel
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Hello again, Marcel
Thank you for the instruction how to get an 'Add class' window.
Waiting a few seconds after dragging out the 'Add class' window brought up a hint.
After pressing 'e' the window appeared.
However while adding the class an emergency evaluator came up.
Maybe this is related to Squeak 4.6 because I had the similar thing trying to leave an MVC project I created.
The videos on github are fine in terms of content but they play too fast. So it is difficult to see which steps are actually involved defining a class.
I suggest to go for a Squeak 4.6 all-in-one with Vivide preloaded so that we have the same artifact we talk about while exploring the Vivide functions.
Kind regards Hannes Hirzel
On 7/15/15, marcel.taeumel Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
Most of the time, you are dragging objects around. In this case, it is a block that contains the instructions to create that (other) object. If this is the case anywhere, just hit 'e' while dragging the object to evaluate it before dropping it.
Another drag-modifier is 's', which lets you script any dropped objects directly.
If you drag long enough, there will be a hint about possible drag modifiers in the bottom-right corner.
Best, Marcel
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Hi Hannes,
the fact that a debugger should appear might be related to some Squeak 4.6 specifics. That it is an emergency debugger, however, was a bug in Vivide, which I just fixed. :-) Thanks for the bug report!
You can update your image or setup a new one. Updating should work, just close Vivide upfront and then follow the update instructions: https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/wiki/FAQ
If you want to use the traditional Squeak debugger, open the preferences, look for the Vivide category and disable "Use Vivide Debugger".
Best, Marcel
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Hey Hannes,
here is a latest stable build: http://www.lively-kernel.org/babelsberg/vivide
Best, Marcel
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Hi Hannes,
I also updated the FAQ about class creation: https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/wiki/FAQ
Best, Marcel
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On 7/16/15, marcel.taeumel Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
Hey Hannes,
here is a latest stable build: http://www.lively-kernel.org/babelsberg/vivide
Thank you, this is more convenient.
--HH
Best, Marcel
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On 7/16/15, marcel.taeumel Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
Hi Hannes,
I also updated the FAQ about class creation: https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/wiki/FAQ
Best, Marcel
Now very clear.....
https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/wiki/FAQ#how-can-i-create-a-class-in-vivid...
Very neat to have a video clip right in the FAQ.
Thank you.
--Hannes
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In case you missed it: http://forum.world.st/Vivide-IDE-td4837299.html :)
Best, Marcel
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Thank you.
At the moment I'd like to add a method.
The video here https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/blob/master/howto/howto-createmethod.gif
says I should tap two times. I assume you mean type two times the <enter> key.
I do not get an area where I can add the method code.
--Hannes
On 7/16/15, marcel.taeumel Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
In case you missed it: http://forum.world.st/Vivide-IDE-td4837299.html :)
Best, Marcel
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And how do I get the System Organisation list shown here
https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/blob/master/howto/howto-createscript.gif
?
On 7/16/15, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you.
At the moment I'd like to add a method.
The video here https://github.com/hpi-swa/vivide/blob/master/howto/howto-createmethod.gif
says I should tap two times. I assume you mean type two times the <enter> key.
I do not get an area where I can add the method code.
--Hannes
On 7/16/15, marcel.taeumel Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
In case you missed it: http://forum.world.st/Vivide-IDE-td4837299.html :)
Best, Marcel
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