Hi,
I have installed squeak under several distros, at least Gentoo and Ubuntu. I have noticed that the Icons stored in the Flaps appear blurry/noisy - this is not the case on M$. Maybe someone knows why? Maybe there's a trick to get clean a clean look? I'll wait for response until I merge Squeak into my fresh system.
Thanks, Felix
At Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:49:21 +0200, Felix Dorner wrote:
Hi,
I have installed squeak under several distros, at least Gentoo and Ubuntu. I have noticed that the Icons stored in the Flaps appear blurry/noisy - this is not the case on M$. Maybe someone knows why? Maybe there's a trick to get clean a clean look? I'll wait for response until I merge Squeak into my fresh system.
Hmm. Not entirely sure what icons in what flaps, and what other factors are playing role here. Can you take screenshots on these computers and send them around?
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I posted a screenshot here: http://image-fast.com/image/75d95183/linux.png
The shot was taken of Squeak3.10-7159-basic.image running on Squeak3.10beta of 22 July 2007 [latest update: #7159]
I guess a lot of people would say it looks okay, but I'd like it to look better/cleaner.
Its actually cool that the help bubble shows up too, so you can compare the font quality. It looks like the Icons are simply scaled down versions of actual window instances. But also the Labels look like scaled-down graphics. I currently don't have a Windows Squeak installed, maybe someone could post a screenshot of the Windows equivalent, so that we could compare?
Thanks, Felix
I run on Linux and Windows regularly. There is no difference in how fonts are rendered in a stock Squeak. My screen looks exactly like yours.
The difference in the crispness is driven by the different fonts. Some of the stock fonts are blurry. You can install new fonts or pick a different font for the flap icons (e.g., you could use the balloon help font everywhere).
Overview of fonts in squeak: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/696
FreeType gives you access to whatever fonts are installed on your system. Can lead to platform dependencies (since it runs native code to render the fonts).Current state of FreeType Plus for squeak: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5984
Juan has found a kind of middle path for fonts. Not as flexible as FreeType, but better looking on all platforms out of the box. This is part of his Morphic 3.0 work. http://www.jvuletich.org/NiceFonts.html
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Felix Dorner felix_do@web.de wrote:
I posted a screenshot here: http://image-fast.com/image/75d95183/linux.png
The shot was taken of Squeak3.10-7159-basic.image running on Squeak3.10beta of 22 July 2007 [latest update: #7159]
I guess a lot of people would say it looks okay, but I'd like it to look better/cleaner.
Its actually cool that the help bubble shows up too, so you can compare the font quality. It looks like the Icons are simply scaled down versions of actual window instances. But also the Labels look like scaled-down graphics. I currently don't have a Windows Squeak installed, maybe someone could post a screenshot of the Windows equivalent, so that we could compare?
Thanks, Felix
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On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:15 PM, David Mitchell david.mitchell@gmail.com wrote: [...]
You can install new fonts or pick a different font for the flap icons (e.g., you could use the balloon help font everywhere).
That's what I ended up doing. I've tried all the font solutions, and in the end found that what works best for me as a developer is to use Accujen virtually everywhere - it comes as standard, it's sans serif so it suits screens, and it's a bitmapped font so it's very sharp. The letter forms change at different sizes and it doesn't have true italics, just slanted letters, so no doubt it makes typographers cry, but I find I can happily work with font sizes at 10pt for navigation and 12pt for code without getting eyestrain.
Cheers, Michael
Hi Felix
Do you have something like Compiz installed and active? Which image are you using ?
Hi,
I have installed squeak under several distros, at least Gentoo and Ubuntu. I have noticed that the Icons stored in the Flaps appear blurry/noisy - this is not the case on M$. Maybe someone knows why? Maybe there's a trick to get clean a clean look? I'll wait for response until I merge Squeak into my fresh system.
Thanks, Felix
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