Hi. I'm new to smalltalk and squeak. I'd like to know how experienced users manage the windows when programming with squeak. I often have a lot of windows open and struggle to find the right one. Are there keyboard shortcuts for switching between windows? Is it possible to program without using the mouse at all? Does squeak have 'virtual desktops' or something like that?
Hi Peter
Hi. I'm new to smalltalk and squeak. I'd like to know how experienced users manage the windows when programming with squeak. I often have a lot of windows open and struggle to find the right one. Are there keyboard shortcuts for switching between windows?
There are some if you load key mappers packages (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1844). I find not very useful (maily because not intuitive, usual) though but I haven't spent lot of time investigating.
Is it possible to program without using the mouse at all?
Nope, as far as I know and this is quite annoying ! I'd love to have such a possibility... or maybe just a touch-screen :)
Does squeak have 'virtual desktops' or something like that?
Not really, Maybe you can use projects for that and switch between them, but I don't
There seem to be only negative answers... you have a window menu where there are several nice options, like collapse all, close all... This menu is accessible through the open menu.
I also find UIEnhancement quite handy mainly because of the lower bar where all windows can be minimized and also there is an overview (a la vista) when passing the mouse over them (search UIEnhancement in squeaksource). Also, I always use the double click on the upper border that maximizes windows. I only work on maximized windows. Actually I'm thinking tweaking my images so that all windows opens maximized.
Hope this is of some kind of help. I'm pretty sure you can get some keyboard mapping eeasily too.
Cheers,
Cédrick
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM, cdrick cdrick65@gmail.com wrote: ...
I also find UIEnhancement quite handy mainly because of the lower bar where all windows can be minimized and also there is an overview (a la vista) when passing the mouse over them (search UIEnhancement in squeaksource).
UI Enhancements also gives you Cmd-LeftArrow and Cmd-RightArrow to switch between windows
For Squeak, I like keyboards with a pointing device nearby. Particularly like the pointing stick keyboards.
A lot of interaction seems to require the mouse a little here and there.
The popup menus are great though, especially that you can type any part of the menu text to narrow down the selection.
I pop new windows like crazy and then use windows, delete unchanged windows, a lot. I also make a browser window and a Monticello window uncloseable (so they don't close easily).
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:16 AM, peter h meadows phm@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
Hi. I'm new to smalltalk and squeak. I'd like to know how experienced users manage the windows when programming with squeak. I often have a lot of windows open and struggle to find the right one. Are there keyboard shortcuts for switching between windows? Is it possible to program without using the mouse at all? Does squeak have 'virtual desktops' or something like that? _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Hello Peter,
phm> Hi. I'm new to smalltalk and squeak. I'd like to know how experienced phm> users manage the windows when programming with squeak. I often have a lot phm> of windows open and struggle to find the right one. Are there keyboard to have less windows:
Using Explorer (Alt Shift I on Win) instead of Inspector can save Windows but has no auto update.
Tracing Messages Browser has a hierarchical senders / implementors list in its top window and the selected method in the bottom window. Find it on www.squeaksource.com, navigate to projects and search for tracing.
I'm still on 3.8, don't know if it works in later versions.
phm> Does squeak have 'virtual desktops' or something phm> like that?
I use projects for that. The context menu has an entry "personalize" there you can find how to jump to a project. I customised it to jump to my projects. Each project usually has about two browsers and two workspaces open. If you disable "project zoom" in preferences (World menu, appearence, preferences) the switching between projects is fast.
And don't forget to look into Damien Cassous's dev images which have a lot of tools for development pre installed. http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:17:17 +0200, Herbert König wrote:
Tracing Messages Browser has a hierarchical senders / implementors list in its top window and the selected method in the bottom window. Find it on www.squeaksource.com, navigate to projects and search for tracing.
I'm still on 3.8, don't know if it works in later versions.
Hello Herbert,
How do you start Tracing Messages Browser? I have it installed in a 3.9 image but can't figure out how to run it.
Chris
Hello Chris,
CK> How do you start Tracing Messages Browser? CK> I have it installed in a 3.9 image but can't figure out how to run it.
it just changes the function of senders / implementors in the normal Browser. In some time I had a problem by using the buttons in the Browser, I had to use Alt m after selecting a method. There was a fix from Marcus Denker which corrected this in RB.
If you are in the TMB the senders.. buttons work as expected. If you select a method with may senders you can drag over the unwanted ones in the top pane, shift right click and select "remove from this Browser".
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:49:16 +0200, Herbert König wrote:
CK> How do you start Tracing Messages Browser? CK> I have it installed in a 3.9 image but can't figure out how to run it.
it just changes the function of senders / implementors in the normal Browser. In some time I had a problem by using the buttons in the Browser, I had to use Alt m after selecting a method. There was a fix from Marcus Denker which corrected this in RB.
If you are in the TMB the senders.. buttons work as expected. If you select a method with may senders you can drag over the unwanted ones in the top pane, shift right click and select "remove from this Browser".
I was expecting a whole different browser.
The latest version from Monticello works well in 3.9: Tracing Messages Browser-cmm.19
Dependencies: Ma base additions-cmm.34 Ma exception handling-cmm.12
Thanks for the help.
Chris
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