HI,
Does anybody know of any good beginner level online / distance ED Squeak / Smalltalk programming classes?
Either free or for a small fee would be OK.
Mike
I learned Smalltalk from some of the books listed on Stef Ducasse's web page: http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html
I found the following particularly useful:
Smalltalk by Example, by Alex Sharp Smalltalk With Style, by Edward Klimas, Suzanne Skublics and David A Thomas
And a great book for beginners:
Smalltalk, Objects, and Design, by Chamond Liu
This was also surprisingly useful (terse, but well structured):
On To Smalltalk, by Patrick Henry Winston
It's essential to get into coding as quickly as possible (work on a small project!); then the books are used mainly for reference instead of learning.
Amir
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:38:23 -0500 Mike Vidal mike.vidal@gmail.com wrote:
HI,
Does anybody know of any good beginner level online / distance ED Squeak / Smalltalk programming classes?
Either free or for a small fee would be OK.
Mike
Thanks for the info on Smalltalk, Objects, and Design, by Chamond Liu I finally found a pdf version online Just into it. I prefer his type of writing with a great deal of background and examples. I'm project less and will follow Chamond's lead. Did you actually use IBM Small talk when using the book?
Thank You Paul
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Amir Ansari fractallyte@csi.com wrote:
I learned Smalltalk from some of the books listed on Stef Ducasse's web page: http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html
I found the following particularly useful:
Smalltalk by Example, by Alex Sharp Smalltalk With Style, by Edward Klimas, Suzanne Skublics and David A Thomas
And a great book for beginners:
Smalltalk, Objects, and Design, by Chamond Liu
This was also surprisingly useful (terse, but well structured):
On To Smalltalk, by Patrick Henry Winston
It's essential to get into coding as quickly as possible (work on a small project!); then the books are used mainly for reference instead of learning.
Amir
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:38:23 -0500 Mike Vidal mike.vidal@gmail.com wrote:
HI,
Does anybody know of any good beginner level online / distance ED Squeak / Smalltalk programming classes?
Either free or for a small fee would be OK.
Mike
Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
I started with Squeak when I was using the book - most of the examples are universally applicable, until you get to the chapters on graphics/windows. But by then you're comfortable enough with the language to be able to just read through those and understand what's going on.
I should've mentioned that, after downloading the free pdf versions of the first two books, I bought them and the others on Amazon. (The last book I discovered in a university library!) Paper copies are great!
On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:00:35 -0700 Paul C Johnson abpccpba@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the info on Smalltalk, Objects, and Design, by Chamond Liu I finally found a pdf version online Just into it. I prefer his type of writing with a great deal of background and examples. I'm project less and will follow Chamond's lead. Did you actually use IBM Small talk when using the book?
Thank You Paul
On Tuesday 12 Oct 2010 11:54:31 am Amir Ansari wrote:
I started with Squeak when I was using the book - most of the examples are universally applicable, until you get to the chapters on graphics/windows. But by then you're comfortable enough with the language to be able to just read through those and understand what's going on.
Very true. Squeak is designed for live adaptation ("authoring is always on"), so it is hard to capture its behavior in a static book and expect to use it unchanged for more than a couple of releases.
One way beginners can start contributing to Squeak is to take a linear guide like "Terse Guide to Squeak" and add these as example methods into Squeak which can be updated as Squeak evolves. Such a live guide can be explored through multiple aspects like senders, implementors, references etc. in the image itself.
Anyone game for it?
Subbu
Great idea! Have you seen the ProfStef interactive tutorial (http://www.pharocasts.com/2010/01/learn-smalltalk-with-profstef.html) included in the latest version of Pharo? Simply superb.
Nick Ager expanded the tutorial for Camp Smalltalk London; here's his post on the Seaside mailing list: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/seaside/2010-August/023995.html
BTW, for Smalltalk video tutorials (including a section for beginners), have a look at Pharocasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:28:39 +0530 "K. K. Subramaniam" kksubbu.ml@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday 12 Oct 2010 11:54:31 am Amir Ansari wrote:
I started with Squeak when I was using the book - most of the examples are universally applicable, until you get to the chapters on graphics/windows. But by then you're comfortable enough with the language to be able to just read through those and understand what's going on.
Very true. Squeak is designed for live adaptation ("authoring is always on"), so it is hard to capture its behavior in a static book and expect to use it unchanged for more than a couple of releases.
One way beginners can start contributing to Squeak is to take a linear guide like "Terse Guide to Squeak" and add these as example methods into Squeak which can be updated as Squeak evolves. Such a live guide can be explored through multiple aspects like senders, implementors, references etc. in the image itself.
Anyone game for it?
Subbu
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