Hi
I am trying to learn more about using databases and using networking in Squeak. Can anyone please suggest some good starting points? For databases, I would be needing to set up a database for my project at squeaksource.com so I am looking for something which would enable that. For networking, I just want to start by learning some basics about how network access works in Squeak. Any pointers would be highly appreciated. Thanks
Navodit
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Hi Navodit,
The easiest thing you can do to attach a database is to use ODBC. If you have on your system an ODBC Driver say like Dbase or Access then you can just use a file. You set up an ODBC connection and then use SQL to access your data. The best part of doing this is that you don't need to have Access or Dbase on your system since ODBC does all the work for you.
Review the ODBC packages on SqueakMap for details.
For networking it really depends on what you are trying to do. If you are just looking for networking access to a database then you have that with the ODBC package.
If you are looking for more advanced Database tools then consider using PostgreSQL and Glorp. This is a much more complicated so if you are new to this I'd stick with ODBC until you get your feet wet.
Please feel free to ask questions!
Happy coding,
Ron Teitelbaum President / Principal Software Engineer US Medical Record Specialists www.usmedrec.com
-----Original Message----- From: Navodit Kaushik
Hi
I am trying to learn more about using databases and using networking in Squeak. Can anyone please suggest some good starting points? For databases, I would be needing to set up a database for my project at squeaksource.com so I am looking for something which would enable that. For networking, I just want to start by learning some basics about how network access works in Squeak. Any pointers would be highly appreciated. Thanks
Navodit
Hi Ron
Thanks for the very quick response. Basically what I am trying to do is as follows:
1. Set up a database at squeaksource.com which has data like Squeak packages, classes, methods etc. i.e. kind of a history database which stores information about squeak packages, classes uptill a particular release...
2. Next thing I want to do is to be able to connect to this database over the internet (i.e. network access to the database) and download packages etc from this database.
So my questions are:
1. What would be the best choice to be able to set up a database at squeaksource.com which has some data. Someone suggested Magma to me but I am not sure if it is the correct choice for this. 2. What packages would I need to be able to access this database across the network (I guess this wd depend on the database used in 1 above!)
Thanks
Navodit --- Ron Teitelbaum Ron@USMedRec.com wrote:
Hi Navodit,
The easiest thing you can do to attach a database is to use ODBC. If you have on your system an ODBC Driver say like Dbase or Access then you can just use a file. You set up an ODBC connection and then use SQL to access your data. The best part of doing this is that you don't need to have Access or Dbase on your system since ODBC does all the work for you.
Review the ODBC packages on SqueakMap for details.
For networking it really depends on what you are trying to do. If you are just looking for networking access to a database then you have that with the ODBC package.
If you are looking for more advanced Database tools then consider using PostgreSQL and Glorp. This is a much more complicated so if you are new to this I'd stick with ODBC until you get your feet wet.
Please feel free to ask questions!
Happy coding,
Ron Teitelbaum President / Principal Software Engineer US Medical Record Specialists www.usmedrec.com
-----Original Message----- From: Navodit Kaushik
Hi
I am trying to learn more about using databases
and
using networking in Squeak. Can anyone please
suggest
some good starting points? For databases, I would
be
needing to set up a database for my project at squeaksource.com so I am looking for something
which
would enable that. For networking, I just want to start by learning some basics about how network
access
works in Squeak. Any pointers would be highly appreciated. Thanks
Navodit
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Hi Novodit,
Ok I see. What you need to do is create a package in squeaksource. Then you use Monticello to access squeaksource from your squeak image. All of the database functionality is already there, and it works with Monticello.
See http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/43 for more information about how to use Monticello.
Let me know if you have questions about how it works, but basically it's a version manager for storing squeak code. It has a full history and version numbers.
Hope that helps! Happy coding,
-Ron
-----Original Message----- From: Navodit Kaushik
Hi Ron
Thanks for the very quick response. Basically what I am trying to do is as follows:
- Set up a database at squeaksource.com which has
data like Squeak packages, classes, methods etc. i.e. kind of a history database which stores information about squeak packages, classes uptill a particular release...
- Next thing I want to do is to be able to connect to
this database over the internet (i.e. network access to the database) and download packages etc from this database.
So my questions are:
- What would be the best choice to be able to set up
a database at squeaksource.com which has some data. Someone suggested Magma to me but I am not sure if it is the correct choice for this. 2. What packages would I need to be able to access this database across the network (I guess this wd depend on the database used in 1 above!)
Thanks
Navodit --- Ron Teitelbaum Ron@USMedRec.com wrote:
Hi Navodit,
The easiest thing you can do to attach a database is to use ODBC. If you have on your system an ODBC Driver say like Dbase or Access then you can just use a file. You set up an ODBC connection and then use SQL to access your data. The best part of doing this is that you don't need to have Access or Dbase on your system since ODBC does all the work for you.
Review the ODBC packages on SqueakMap for details.
For networking it really depends on what you are trying to do. If you are just looking for networking access to a database then you have that with the ODBC package.
If you are looking for more advanced Database tools then consider using PostgreSQL and Glorp. This is a much more complicated so if you are new to this I'd stick with ODBC until you get your feet wet.
Please feel free to ask questions!
Happy coding,
Ron Teitelbaum President / Principal Software Engineer US Medical Record Specialists www.usmedrec.com
-----Original Message----- From: Navodit Kaushik
Hi
I am trying to learn more about using databases
and
using networking in Squeak. Can anyone please
suggest
some good starting points? For databases, I would
be
needing to set up a database for my project at squeaksource.com so I am looking for something
which
would enable that. For networking, I just want to start by learning some basics about how network
access
works in Squeak. Any pointers would be highly appreciated. Thanks
Navodit
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Look up Lex Spoon's chapter on Squeak networking: www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/FreeBooks/CollectiveNBlueBook/parsia%202.pdf
For client-server network programming, you might look at MaClientServer, which is part of Magma, an OO database for Squeak. You can load it separately from Magma. Search mail archives and Squeak IRC for references.
On 4/6/07, Navodit Kaushik navoditk@yahoo.co.in wrote:
Hi
I am trying to learn more about using databases and using networking in Squeak. Can anyone please suggest some good starting points? For databases, I would be needing to set up a database for my project at squeaksource.com so I am looking for something which would enable that. For networking, I just want to start by learning some basics about how network access works in Squeak. Any pointers would be highly appreciated. Thanks
Navodit
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