Very interesting and doubtless useful but overkill for what I need.
All I want is for a single image (with a single screen though perhaps multiple duplicate screens) to have multiple mice and multiple keyboard inputs. Some operating system help is likely required for this. I am currently using Linux but would eventually be able to work on any operating system that Squeak does.
I guess this could be used for multiple developers to work on the same image at the same time and I guess this would be useful. But this is not what I am looking for.
I want to develop multi-user games (maximum 4 players) playing in real time so I need up to 4 mice and perhaps 4 keyboards. These games are for 4-10 year olds who would likely all be in the same room ideally on the same computer. So networking capability isn't necessary or the ideal way to go.
Is anybody doing any work in this direction?
Ralph Boland
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Hi,
The is croquet.io http://croquet.io/ which allows "multiple users to work or play together within a single shared distributed environment". I wonder whether it is possible to take a squeak image and make it that single shared distributed environment. So multiple users would have some sort of UI (with system browser, workspaces, ..) and be able to work on a single underlining model (the squeak image).
Jiri
Ah, if that is the case, the Nebraska system would be a good starting point. There are some logistic issues like how to set a server and let others connect, etc. and I don’t know how well it is maintained…. But when I was paying attention to it many years ago, Nebraska did work reasonably well.
-- Yoshiki
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Very interesting and doubtless useful but overkill for what I need.
All I want is for a single image (with a single screen though perhaps multiple duplicate screens) to have multiple mice and multiple keyboard inputs. Some operating system help is likely required for this. I am currently using Linux but would eventually be able to work on any operating system that Squeak does.
I guess this could be used for multiple developers to work on the same image at the same time and I guess this would be useful. But this is not what I am looking for.
I want to develop multi-user games (maximum 4 players) playing in real time so I need up to 4 mice and perhaps 4 keyboards. These games are for 4-10 year olds who would likely all be in the same room ideally on the same computer. So networking capability isn't necessary or the ideal way to go.
Is anybody doing any work in this direction?
Ralph Boland
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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2022 14:30:27 +0200 From: "Jiri R." jiriq@icloud.com To: Squeak Begginers beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [Newbies] Multi user Squeak image via Croquet Message-ID: 17C82321-EE23-497E-9E5D-D877ABDB8590@icloud.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,
The is croquet.io http://croquet.io/ which allows "multiple users to work or play together within a single shared distributed environment". I wonder whether it is possible to take a squeak image and make it that single shared distributed environment. So multiple users would have some sort of UI (with system browser, workspaces, ..) and be able to work on a single underlining model (the squeak image).
Jiri
On Aug 2, 2022, at 4:06 PM, Ralph Boland asked: [....]
All I want is for a single image (with a single screen though perhaps multiple duplicate screens) to have multiple mice and multiple keyboard inputs.
[....]
Is anybody doing any work in this direction?
Yoshiki Ohshima replied on Tue, 2 Aug 2022 16:45:36 -0700
Ah, if that is the case, the Nebraska system would be a good starting point. There are some logistic issues like how to set a server and let others connect, etc. and I don't know how well it is maintained?. But when I was paying attention to it many years ago, Nebraska did work reasonably well.
Nebraska was probably removed from the official image long ago and it would be hard to getting it working on a recent Squeak. And it involved networking.
A discussion about multiple cursors on the squeak-dev list from about two years ago has some interesting references that might help with the single image on a single computer driven by multiple users problem:
http://forum.world.st/Squeak-on-a-PostmarketOS-cellphone-td5120950i20.html
-- Jecel
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