Hello fellow Squeak/Pharo users,
at work I find stack-overflow a quite valuable resource whenever I get stuck with something (Java, Ruby, Unix, etc.).
What do you think about the idea of using it more, so that:
- people starting with Smalltalk can find answers there apart from digging in the mailing-lists - raising the awareness/mind-share about open-source Smalltalk in the "outside world"?
I for one will try to double-post my questions both in the corresponding mailing lists and stack-overflow, and whenever I find good information that might be helpful for newcomers, I'll try to post it there also.
It might help attracting more people to open-source Smalltalk and gain more acceptance in the industry.
Best regards,
Sebastian
On 2012-12-03, at 13:14, Sebastian Nozzi sebnozzi@gmail.com wrote:
Hello fellow Squeak/Pharo users,
at work I find stack-overflow a quite valuable resource whenever I get stuck with something (Java, Ruby, Unix, etc.).
What do you think about the idea of using it more, so that:
- people starting with Smalltalk can find answers there apart from
digging in the mailing-lists
- raising the awareness/mind-share about open-source Smalltalk in the
"outside world"?
I for one will try to double-post my questions both in the corresponding mailing lists and stack-overflow, and whenever I find good information that might be helpful for newcomers, I'll try to post it there also.
It might help attracting more people to open-source Smalltalk and gain more acceptance in the industry.
Best regards,
Sebastian
Sounds good - why not? :)
- Bert -
Sebastian,
Yes, I think cross-posting is a good idea. And I suggest that you post to Stackoverflow first and then invite people from the Squeak list to contribute.
The answers on stackoverflow are indexed in a better way than in this mailing list.
Note aside: good keywords in mailing lists posts also help to identify an answer in the archive.
There are quite a number of Squeak related questions
http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=squeak
--Hannes
On 12/3/12, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On 2012-12-03, at 13:14, Sebastian Nozzi sebnozzi@gmail.com wrote:
Hello fellow Squeak/Pharo users,
at work I find stack-overflow a quite valuable resource whenever I get stuck with something (Java, Ruby, Unix, etc.).
What do you think about the idea of using it more, so that:
- people starting with Smalltalk can find answers there apart from
digging in the mailing-lists
- raising the awareness/mind-share about open-source Smalltalk in the
"outside world"?
I for one will try to double-post my questions both in the corresponding mailing lists and stack-overflow, and whenever I find good information that might be helpful for newcomers, I'll try to post it there also.
It might help attracting more people to open-source Smalltalk and gain more acceptance in the industry.
Best regards,
Sebastian
Sounds good - why not? :)
- Bert -
Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
So far the reactions have been positive. I am (positively) surprised :-) I want to cross-post (squeak/pharo) these in particular.
2012/12/3 Camillo Bruni:
yes!! very important! smalltalk has too little presence in the web!
Yes, unfortunately. But we can change that ;-)
mailinglists won't help with that fact, as they act almost as closed communities. Also it happens way too often that questions are re-asked and reposted, whereas they could be answered on stackoverflow.
2012/12/3 H. Hirzel:
Yes, I think cross-posting is a good idea. And I suggest that you post to Stackoverflow first and then invite people from the Squeak list to contribute.
Good idea.
The answers on stackoverflow are indexed in a better way than in this mailing list. Note aside: good keywords in mailing lists posts also help to identify an answer in the archive.
Didn't think of that, good point. I tend to write too much rather than too little anyway :-)
Thanks all of you for your feedback,
Sebastian
On 03/12/12 14:29, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Sounds good - why not? :)
For the same reason unnecessary cross posting of any kind is bad - the very people you most want to help you will subscribe to both and get p****d off at reading everything twice. Pretty soon you wind up on their kill list (mental or electronic - hopefully not literal!).
OTOH it might work to advertise Smalltalk if that's all you want to accomplish.
FWIW I read this list via gmane news rather than as a mailing list... That gives me pretty good archive/search facilities.
beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org