Hi all,
I am new to the list and to SmallTalk. I just installed squeak on a Debian Sarge box yesterday and all went well. I had intalled Seaside and the required packages such as KomServices etc. It was all working great and I was having a great time with Seaside's intro tutorials. Then, in my ignorance when I quit I didn't save the image.
Today when I start squeak I get...
a progress bar -> Reading a stream and then..
'Reading an instance of SMMaintainableObject, which modern class should I translate to?' popup dialog when I try to open the Package Loader.
In the debugger it says...
UndefinedObject(object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #classVersion
When I first installed squeak I seem to remember at this point I got a msg which said something like you are using an older verison (of something) would you like to update? to which I said yes and it then displayed the package loader.
I thought it would be simpler to reinstall so I deleted my image file in my home dir and reinstalled squeak from the tar.gz file and ran INSTALL again as root.
Still the same problem. Can some one please shed some light on what's going on and how to fix this?
TIA,
bakki
There is probably a directory called 'sm' in the same directory as the image file. Delete it and try again.
On Wednesday, August 02, 2006, at 09:54AM, Bakki Kudva bakki.kudva@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I am new to the list and to SmallTalk. I just installed squeak on a Debian Sarge box yesterday and all went well. I had intalled Seaside and the required packages such as KomServices etc. It was all working great and I was having a great time with Seaside's intro tutorials. Then, in my ignorance when I quit I didn't save the image.
Today when I start squeak I get...
a progress bar -> Reading a stream and then..
'Reading an instance of SMMaintainableObject, which modern class should I translate to?' popup dialog when I try to open the Package Loader.
In the debugger it says...
UndefinedObject(object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #classVersion
When I first installed squeak I seem to remember at this point I got a msg which said something like you are using an older verison (of something) would you like to update? to which I said yes and it then displayed the package loader.
I thought it would be simpler to reinstall so I deleted my image file in my home dir and reinstalled squeak from the tar.gz file and ran INSTALL again as root.
Still the same problem. Can some one please shed some light on what's going on and how to fix this?
TIA,
bakki _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Bakki Kudva a écrit :
Hi all,
I am new to the list and to SmallTalk. I just installed squeak on a Debian Sarge box yesterday and all went well. I had intalled Seaside and the required packages such as KomServices etc. It was all working great and I was having a great time with Seaside's intro tutorials. Then, in my ignorance when I quit I didn't save the image.
Today when I start squeak I get...
a progress bar -> Reading a stream and then..
'Reading an instance of SMMaintainableObject, which modern class should I translate to?' popup dialog when I try to open the Package Loader.
In the debugger it says...
UndefinedObject(object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #classVersion
When I first installed squeak I seem to remember at this point I got a msg which said something like you are using an older verison (of something) would you like to update? to which I said yes and it then displayed the package loader.
I thought it would be simpler to reinstall so I deleted my image file in my home dir and reinstalled squeak from the tar.gz file and ran INSTALL again as root.
Still the same problem. Can some one please shed some light on what's going on and how to fix this?
TIA,
bakki _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
You are in 3.9 3.8?
Hello,
It is likely that the package-cache has survived your attempts to begin from scratch. This is a folder that squeakmap uses to store items that it has downloaded. Whether this is your problem or not I do not know, but beginining from scratch is probably worth a fresh directory in which to work.
When working in squeak every change is committed to the .changes file in parallel to the image. .changes is your friend whenever you forget to save your image. To use the change log, open a "File List" from the tools flap and select the .changes file that goes with your image. A "recent changes" button then appears which will launch a browser on the lost history. There you can filter the methods if you wish and re-load them into the image, thus bring it up to date.
hope this helps
best regards
Keith (using debian install in knoppix as my main working environment)
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Hello,
It is likely that the package-cache has survived your attempts to begin from scratch. This is a folder that squeakmap uses to store items that it has downloaded. Whether this is your problem or not I do not know, but beginining from scratch is probably worth a fresh directory in which to work.
When working in squeak every change is committed to the .changes file in parallel to the image. .changes is your friend whenever you forget to save your image. To use the change log, open a "File List" from the tools flap and select the .changes file that goes with your image. A "recent changes" button then appears which will launch a browser on the lost history. There you can filter the methods if you wish and re-load them into the image, thus bring it up to date.
hope this helps
best regards
Keith (using debian install in knoppix as my main working environment)
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Hi Keith,
On 8/2/06, Keith Hodges Keith.Hodges@warwick.ac.uk wrote: <snip>
When working in squeak every change is committed to the .changes file in parallel to the image. .changes is your friend whenever you forget to
</snip>
I don't see a .changes file anywhere!?
-bakki
To complement: in general do not through away your changes and image (use them always in couple the changes contains the log of what you did and can be handy to rescue some code). but do not forget to save your code either as fileout (click on class category -> fileout) or
use Monticello to save your code (my preferred way) Create an account on squeaksource and use Monticello This way you will have a version on your disc you can have a look at my videos.....http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/ Videos/
Stef
On 2 août 06, at 18:54, Bakki Kudva wrote:
Hi all,
I am new to the list and to SmallTalk. I just installed squeak on a Debian Sarge box yesterday and all went well. I had intalled Seaside and the required packages such as KomServices etc. It was all working great and I was having a great time with Seaside's intro tutorials. Then, in my ignorance when I quit I didn't save the image.
Today when I start squeak I get...
a progress bar -> Reading a stream and then..
'Reading an instance of SMMaintainableObject, which modern class should I translate to?' popup dialog when I try to open the Package Loader.
In the debugger it says...
UndefinedObject(object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #classVersion
When I first installed squeak I seem to remember at this point I got a msg which said something like you are using an older verison (of something) would you like to update? to which I said yes and it then displayed the package loader.
I thought it would be simpler to reinstall so I deleted my image file in my home dir and reinstalled squeak from the tar.gz file and ran INSTALL again as root.
Still the same problem. Can some one please shed some light on what's going on and how to fix this?
TIA,
bakki _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
stéphane ducasse wrote:
To complement: in general do not through away your changes and image (use them always in couple the changes contains the log of what you did and can be handy to rescue some code). but do not forget to save your code either as fileout (click on class category -> fileout) or
use Monticello to save your code (my preferred way) Create an account on squeaksource and use Monticello This way you will have a version on your disc you can have a look at my videos.....http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/Videos/
And using a Monticello account on www.squeaksource.com is a life saver when your computer hard disk decides to re-iterate to you once more the reality of Murphys Law. It provides an off site back up of your source for free.
Keith
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On 8/3/06, Keith Hodges Keith.Hodges@warwick.ac.uk wrote:
And using a Monticello account on www.squeaksource.com is a life saver when your computer hard disk decides to re-iterate to you once more the reality of Murphys Law. It provides an off site back up of your source for free.
I have currently installed Squeak on 3 machines. 2 Debian Sarge workstations (home and work) and a MacBookPro laptop. I was thinking of using subversion server at work as I do for my other projects but if I can do the same from within Monticello I would be superb. I already created an account and will read the docs. Thank you very much for that link..it will be a life saver!
bakki
PS: I am so impressed on how easy it was to install Squeak on all 3 machines(a few minutes each). I can't remember the last time when a development env was so easily setup across platforms. Also the look and feel is identical as well.
Stef,
On 8/3/06, stéphane ducasse ducasse@iam.unibe.ch wrote:
To complement: in general do not through away your changes and image (use them always in couple the changes contains the log of what you did and can be handy to rescue some code). but do not forget to save your code either as fileout (click on class category -> fileout) or
use Monticello to save your code (my preferred way) Create an account on squeaksource and use Monticello This way you will have a version on your disc you can have a look at my videos.....http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/ Videos/
Stef
Thanks for the video link and the working method suggestions. I already have gone thro' your wonderful Smalltalk intro in Squeak and also downloaded most of the free books to read. I had bookmarked your site becuase it is such a rich resource but somehow missed the video links the first time!
cheers,
bakki
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