Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I can find the image is here: http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but it's not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak? There is no readme file.
You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10. If you are using Linux you will need to install some 32-bit Libraries. If you have trouble with that I think I have some notes on what is needed. You can also run the ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming With Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file as well. Robert Kuropkat
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I can find the image is here: http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but it's not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak? There is no readme file.
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Hi Steve (and Robert),
If the suggestion of using Squeak 3.9 or 3.10 does not work, then I will mention also that if you are using Linux, then you can build a new Squeak virtual machine (VM) that will run the old SqueakByExample-1.3.image on any modern Linux machine.
There is no longer any official support for this, but it is maintained informally for Linux, and an interested Linux user can build the VM by following the instructions at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.
I checked by running the image in SqueakByExample-1.3.zip on my 64-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop, and it works fine for me.
I do not know if this will work on Windows or OS X. Probably not, but I do not know for sure.
Dave
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 07:51:26PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10. If you are using Linux you will need to install some 32-bit Libraries. If you have trouble with that I think I have some notes on what is needed. You can also run the ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming With Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file as well. Robert Kuropkat
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I can find the image is here: http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but it's not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak? There is no readme file.
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David,
Thank-you for the remind. I think you mentioned this to me once before and I had not yet followed up on it. I'll need to give it a try soon.
Robert Kuropkat
P.S. Just for giggles I found a 3.x port of Squeak for OS/2 and was able to get both images to start up in it also :-)
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 20:54 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:
Hi Steve (and Robert),
If the suggestion of using Squeak 3.9 or 3.10 does not work, then I will mention also that if you are using Linux, then you can build a new Squeak virtual machine (VM) that will run the old SqueakByExample-1.3.image on any modern Linux machine.
There is no longer any official support for this, but it is maintained informally for Linux, and an interested Linux user can build the VM by following the instructions at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.
I checked by running the image in SqueakByExample-1.3.zip on my 64-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop, and it works fine for me.
I do not know if this will work on Windows or OS X. Probably not, but I do not know for sure.
Dave
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 07:51:26PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10. If you are using Linux you will need to install some 32-bit Libraries. If you have trouble with that I think I have some notes on what is needed. You can also run the ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming With Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file as well. Robert Kuropkat
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I can find the image is here:
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip
md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but it's not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak? There is no readme file.
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On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 10:10:56PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
David,
Thank-you for the remind. I think you mentioned this to me once before and I had not yet followed up on it. I'll need to give it a try soon.
Robert Kuropkat
P.S. Just for giggles I found a 3.x port of Squeak for OS/2 and was able to get both images to start up in it also :-)
Oh, that is really great :-) The OS/2 version of the Squeak VM was done by Juan Vuletich:
http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/SqueakForOS2/SqueakForOS2Eng.html
Nowadays, Juan is the leader and inspiration behind Cuis, which is well worth checking out:
https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev
And of course, do not forget to look into the latest versions of Squeak, which continues to advance at a rapid pace :-)
Dave
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 20:54 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:
Hi Steve (and Robert),
If the suggestion of using Squeak 3.9 or 3.10 does not work, then I will mention also that if you are using Linux, then you can build a new Squeak virtual machine (VM) that will run the old SqueakByExample-1.3.image on any modern Linux machine.
There is no longer any official support for this, but it is maintained informally for Linux, and an interested Linux user can build the VM by following the instructions at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.
I checked by running the image in SqueakByExample-1.3.zip on my 64-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop, and it works fine for me.
I do not know if this will work on Windows or OS X. Probably not, but I do not know for sure.
Dave
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 07:51:26PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10. If you are using Linux you will need to install some 32-bit Libraries. If you have trouble with that I think I have some notes on what is needed. You can also run the ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming With Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file as well. Robert Kuropkat
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I can find the image is here:
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip
md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but it's not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak? There is no readme file.
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Yep, that's where I got it! :-) I did not realize Cuis was his also. It is on my long todo list, as is modern Squeak and Pharo. The fact Squeak ran on OS/2 was my original reason for looking into it, so I was pretty happy to see those two images would run on the OS/2 version. I'm not exactly sure what will come of the class I am teaching, but I hope to take the class onto newer Squeak eventually.
Believe it or not, OS/2 is still around. I am going to be demoing the Squeak book images on OS/2 at a small conference next month.
Robert
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 22:48 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 10:10:56PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
David,
Thank-you for the remind. I think you mentioned this to me once before and I had not yet followed up on it. I'll need to give it a try soon.
Robert Kuropkat
P.S. Just for giggles I found a 3.x port of Squeak for OS/2 and was able to get both images to start up in it also :-)
Oh, that is really great :-) The OS/2 version of the Squeak VM was done by Juan Vuletich:
http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/SqueakForOS2/SqueakForOS2Eng.html
Nowadays, Juan is the leader and inspiration behind Cuis, which is well worth checking out:
https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev
And of course, do not forget to look into the latest versions of Squeak, which continues to advance at a rapid pace :-)
Dave
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 20:54 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:
Hi Steve (and Robert),
If the suggestion of using Squeak 3.9 or 3.10 does not work, then I will mention also that if you are using Linux, then you can build a new Squeak virtual machine (VM) that will run the old SqueakByExample-1.3.image on any modern Linux machine.
There is no longer any official support for this, but it is maintained informally for Linux, and an interested Linux user can build the VM by following the instructions at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.
I checked by running the image in SqueakByExample-1.3.zip on my 64-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop, and it works fine for me.
I do not know if this will work on Windows or OS X. Probably not, but I do not know for sure.
Dave
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 07:51:26PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10. If you are using Linux you will need to install some 32-bit Libraries. If you have trouble with that I think I have some notes on what is needed. You can also run the ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming With Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file as well. Robert Kuropkat
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I can find the image is here:
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip
md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but it's not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak? There is no readme file.
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Is the conference on OS/2 or squeak?
and didn't IBM officially stop selling OS/2?
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 8:03 PM Robert Kuropkat robert@kuropkat.com wrote:
Yep, that's where I got it! :-) I did not realize Cuis was his also. It is on my long todo list, as is modern Squeak and Pharo. The fact Squeak ran on OS/2 was my original reason for looking into it, so I was pretty happy to see those two images would run on the OS/2 version. I'm not exactly sure what will come of the class I am teaching, but I hope to take the class onto newer Squeak eventually.
Believe it or not, OS/2 is still around. I am going to be demoing the Squeak book images on OS/2 at a small conference next month.
Robert
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 22:48 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 10:10:56PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
David,
Thank-you for the remind. I think you mentioned this to me once before and I had not yet followed up on it. I'll need to give it a try soon.
Robert Kuropkat
P.S. Just for giggles I found a 3.x port of Squeak for OS/2 and was able to get both images to start up in it also :-)
Oh, that is really great :-) The OS/2 version of the Squeak VM was done by Juan Vuletich:
http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/SqueakForOS2/SqueakForOS2Eng.html
Nowadays, Juan is the leader and inspiration behind Cuis, which is well worth checking out:
https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev
And of course, do not forget to look into the latest versions of Squeak, which continues to advance at a rapid pace :-)
Dave
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 20:54 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote:
Hi Steve (and Robert),
If the suggestion of using Squeak 3.9 or 3.10 does not work, then I will mention also that if you are using Linux, then you can build a new Squeak virtual machine (VM) that will run the old SqueakByExample-1.3.image on any modern Linux machine.
There is no longer any official support for this, but it is maintained informally for Linux, and an interested Linux user can build the VM by following the instructions at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.
I checked by running the image in SqueakByExample-1.3.zip on my 64-bit Ubuntu Linux laptop, and it works fine for me.
I do not know if this will work on Windows or OS X. Probably not, but I do not know for sure.
Dave
On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 07:51:26PM -0400, Robert Kuropkat wrote:
You need to use Squeak 3.9 or 3.10. If you are using Linux you will need to install some 32-bit Libraries. If you have trouble with that I think I have some notes on what is needed. You can also run the ReadyPC image which is the one for "Squeak: Learn Programming With Robots" with Squeak 3.8-3.10 but will need the V3Sources file as well. Robert Kuropkat
On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 16:21 -0700, Steve Quezadas wrote:
Has anyone played around with Squeak by Example? The only place I can find the image is here:
http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/4624/SqueakByExample-1.3.zip
md5sum is here: 79b5df8ba51ae1fa3a852048ba8d27d0
I tried to run it in my Squeak instance. I am running 5.2, but it's not loading. Do I need to load a previous version of squeak? There is no readme file.
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