Hi,
We have an Intel dual core 64 bit server where we installed Ubuntu 7.04
We are all new in Squeak/Smalltalk; but we managed to develop a small Seaside app in Squeak (on Windows XP) using Squeak 3.9 and Seaside 2.7 (latest).
We would now like to install this image on the linux server and run seaside there, under Apache.
I read quite a few of posts and Ramon Leon's blog on how to get a squeak/seaside headless vm working on Linux; but we are all but confused; and didn't manage to get anywhere.
Questions:
1. Do we need x-windows, or not (we will not do development on the linux server)?
2. Is there a squeak vm we can download or do we have to build from source for Intel dual-core? ( we tried both versions and neither works)
The debian packages at:
http://ftp.squeak.org/debian/ stable main
don't seem to work for linux running on intel dual core and we downloaded Squeak-3.9-8.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.tar from http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/
With this last one installed we get the error:
"could not find module vm-display-X11"
When we run:
squeak -headless groupinvestment.image
(where groupinvestment.image is our Windows build image containing seaside and our web site)
And when we run:
squeak -nodisplay groupinvestment.image
we get:
Segmentation fault
45396408 SmalltalkImage>snapshot:andQuit:embedded:
45396316 SmalltalkImage>snapshot:andQuit:
45396224 SmalltalkImage>saveSession
45396040 TheWorldMenu>doMenuItem:with:
45395948 [] in MenuItemMorph>invokeWithEvent:
45395856 BlockContext>ensure:
45395764 Cursor>showWhile:
45395552 MenuItemMorph>invokeWithEvent:
45395460 MenuItemMorph>mouseUp:
45395368 MenuItemMorph>handleMouseUp:
45395236 MouseButtonEvent>sentTo:
45395144 Morph>handleEvent:
45395052 MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with:
45394960 MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with:
45394868 Morph>processEvent:using:
45394776 MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchDefault:with:
45394668 MorphicEventDispatcher>dispatchEvent:with:
45394536 Morph>processEvent:using:
45394444 Morph>processEvent:
45394352 MenuMorph>handleFocusEvent:
45394076 [] in HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear:
45394168 [] in PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring:
45393984 BlockContext>on:do:
45393892 PasteUpMorph>becomeActiveDuring:
45393708 HandMorph>sendFocusEvent:to:clear:
45393616 HandMorph>sendEvent:focus:clear:
45393524 HandMorph>sendMouseEvent:
45393380 HandMorph>handleEvent:
45393072 HandMorph>processEvents
45393164 [] in WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor:
45392980 SequenceableCollection>do:
45392888 WorldState>handsDo:
45392796 WorldState>doOneCycleNowFor:
45392704 WorldState>doOneCycleFor:
45392612 PasteUpMorph>doOneCycle
34840512 [] in >spawnNewProcess
34840696 [] in BlockContext>newProcess
Aborted
Thank you for any help you could give us
Liliana Ivan
liliana@finwork.biz
012 663 3140
Finworks http://www.finworks.biz/
Hi Liliana.
Liliana wrote:
Hi,
We have an Intel dual core 64 bit server where we installed Ubuntu 7.04
We are all new in Squeak/Smalltalk; but we managed to develop a small Seaside app in Squeak (on Windows XP) using Squeak 3.9 and Seaside 2.7 (latest).
We would now like to install this image on the linux server and run seaside there, under Apache.
I read quite a few of posts and Ramon Leon’s blog on how to get a squeak/seaside headless vm working on Linux; but we are all but confused; and didn’t manage to get anywhere.
Questions:
- Do we need x-windows, or not (we will not do development on the
linux server)?
You should not need X-Windows.
- Is there a squeak vm we can download or do we have to build from
source for Intel dual-core? ( we tried both versions and neither works)
The debian packages at:
http://ftp.squeak.org/debian/ stable main
don’t seem to work for linux running on intel dual core and we downloaded Squeak-3.9-8.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.tar from http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/
With this last one installed we get the error:
“could not find module vm-display-X11”
This means that the VM cannot find that module (to state the obvious... sorry!); try copying that module (vm-display-X11.la or vm-display-X11.so) into the same directory as the squeak executable. Alternatively, you may be having linking problems because you're using 32-bit binaries. While Squeak won't use this plug-in, for some reason it won't start unless it is present.
I would recommend trying the 64-bit binaries: http://www.squeakvm.org/squeak64/. I have used this version of Squeak on an AMD-64 machine without any problems.
Also note that Squeak currently can't use the dual cores; for now Squeak can only make use of one core. I don't know about running multiple images with a load balancer though to increase thoughput; I don't think that Seaside would support this because it keeps stateful sessions.
When we run:
squeak -headless groupinvestment.image
(where groupinvestment.image is our Windows build image containing seaside and our web site)
And when we run:
squeak -nodisplay groupinvestment.image
we get:
Segmentation fault
I will let somebody else on this list handle this. It may be related to trying to run a 32-bit binary on a 64-bit machine.
Michael.
Liliana wrote:
Hi,
We have an Intel dual core 64 bit server where we installed Ubuntu 7.04
We are all new in Squeak/Smalltalk; but we managed to develop a small Seaside app in Squeak (on Windows XP) using Squeak 3.9 and Seaside 2.7 (latest).
We would now like to install this image on the linux server and run seaside there, under Apache.
I read quite a few of posts and Ramon Leon’s blog on how to get a squeak/seaside headless vm working on Linux; but we are all but confused; and didn’t manage to get anywhere.
Questions:
- Do we need x-windows, or not (we will not do development on the
linux server)?
Also - you'll need a way to manage Squeak remotely.
I recommend either using the Squeak VNC server (should be on SqueakMap?) which many people have had success with, or the REPLServer which is a telnet server that runs simple Smalltalk commands - an old version is on SqueakMap, or I've made a nicer version at http://www.squeaksource.com/SecureSqueak/REPL-mvdg.13.mcz.
Michael.
beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org