I would like to create a virtual chemistry set. Is this possible in squeak?
Hi Chuck,
Boy did you come to the right place.
The short answer to your questions is yes. The long answer is how difficult it will be depends on what exactly you want to do.
It is possible to add in a lot of information about molecules and atoms. You could put all the rules that are known about chemistry and physics and create a world that actually predicts chemical reactions. There is a lot of work in proteomics that model how proteins fold, based on what we know.
Smalltalk can handle your project at many different levels it all depends on how much modeling you want to do.
If on the other hand you are looking for the ability to mix chemicals and have them change color and foam up depending on some simple characteristics or combinations that you already know, that is very possible too.
The project sounds fun.
Can you share what you would like your chemistry set to do?
Welcome to the list Chuck,
Ron Teitelbaum
________________________________________ From: Chuck Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:18 AM
I would like to create a virtual chemistry set. Is this possible in squeak?
From: Chuck Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:18 AM
I would like to create a virtual chemistry set. Is this possible in squeak?
I have this very, very old project.
It's AnalyticalChemistry following clasic Vogel book for cations. Lets prepare incognita solution and add reactives clicking in funnels like you do in real lab. Spots of colors show if you follow the path to incognita.
If seems what you are searching , I could redo for 3.10 in English.
That is too cool! The picture looks really neat.
Nice work Edgar! How did you use the program?
I wonder if that's what Chuck had in mind?
Ron
-----Original Message----- From: beginners-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:beginners- bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Edgar J. De Cleene Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:31 PM To: A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions aboutSqueak. Ron@USMedRec.com, Subject: Re: [Newbies] virtual chemistry
From: Chuck Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:18 AM
I would like to create a virtual chemistry set. Is this possible in
squeak?
I have this very, very old project.
It's AnalyticalChemistry following clasic Vogel book for cations. Lets prepare incognita solution and add reactives clicking in funnels like you do in real lab. Spots of colors show if you follow the path to incognita.
If seems what you are searching , I could redo for 3.10 in English.
El 1/31/07 10:39 AM, "Ron Teitelbaum" Ron@USMedRec.com escribió:
That is too cool! The picture looks really neat.
Nice work Edgar! How did you use the program?
I wonder if that's what Chuck had in mind?
Ron
Believe or not, was my first try on Squeak, few days after I could have my hands on Mark Guzdial book and CD some years ago.
Looking from today, code sucks !!!
But works, I load into in development 3.10 (Now what Ralph teach me, you could expect a better SqueakChem next time)
Works as you is in Analytical Chemistry lab ( I was a chemist in a recent life)
You could press the button and one incognita solution was created for you could "find" what cations have clicking the funnels in the right order.
You have a help as what I send with tree view of steps of reactives necessary to reach some cation , what always is a leaf in the tree.
If you do all in correct order, the glass change with some spots of color according to what Vogel said you must have. (What in a real lab not always is how the book said :=)
I do and teach to do this to my students at this time and some of they produce a very improved version...what sorry I don't have.
I have a pile now with 3.10, but if some have interest I could translate "as is now" for English and add to remote image for people test .
I send a pict as this list have a limit , the compressed morph for this is 92 k
I could produce all picts and put somewhere . Edgar
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