etoys-dev November 2008

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[Etoys] Etoys downloads are out of date
by Matthew Fulmer 24 Nov '08

24 Nov '08

Hi. I visited the etoys homepage (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys), and download both etoys-dev.zip and etoys-image-and-pr.zip. I ran "SystemVersion current" on both of them, and found that both are still at version 3.0. I think that should be fixed -- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/

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[Etoys] Another eToys on XO testemonial
by Greg Smith 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Hi All, FYI here is another link I saw recently about people using eToys with the XO. Interestingly, they used the tutorials on your web site to great effect. http://blog.laptopmag.com/olpc-mali-collaboration-emerges-as-the-program-wi… I see one feature requests in there about allowing people to change the size of the cursor. Since everything can be modified on the fly, I imagine that is possible already. If so you may want to document it somewhere and if not you may want to add it. I'm not sure what version of the XO they had in Mali but I would guess that its an old one with cursor control problems which have been minimized in later releases. Thanks, Greg S

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[Etoys] Textual script editor accept dropped morphs for reference ?
by Karl Ramberg 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Hi Can't we make a similar system for ScriptEditors when in textual mode like the the one that exist for Workspaces to create reference to dropped morphs ? Now it is quite hard to do this reference to morphs. Karl

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[Etoys] etoys.spec: changes needed for inclusion in Fedora
by Gavin Romig-Koch 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

I have been making changes to the etoys.spec file, so that EToys might get included into Fedora. The attached patch to git://dev.laptop.org/projects/etoys are the changes that I believe are necessary to propose EToy's inclusion in Fedora. If you are willing to accept these changes into your git repo, then I can simply use your spec file and SRPM as the ones submitted to Fedora. If not, that's OK too, I'll just host them somewhere else pending inclusion into Fedora. -gavin... This is a short explanation for each of the changes, if you need more explanation, please ask: - added %{?dist} to release Fedora requires %{?dist} be added to all releases - it results in nothing on distro's that don't define 'dist' - altered the License field to use cononical License short names Fedora requires specific short names for this field to ease License checking - remove the Prefix (relocatable) field Fedora discourages relocatable RPMs. They are allowed, but require added work, testing, and justification. I didn't think the EToy's RPM needed to be relocatable. If you think it needs to be relocateable, let me know and I'll add it. - added .desktop file and etoys icon. Fedora requires a .desktop file for each 'desktop' application. diff --git a/etoys.desktop b/etoys.desktop new file mode 100644 index 0000000..9767c19 --- /dev/null +++ b/etoys.desktop @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ + +[Desktop Entry] +Type=Application +Name=EToys +GenericName=The EToys Environment +Comment=starts EToys +Exec=etoys +Terminal=false +Icon=activity-etoys.svg +StartupWMClass=squeak +Encoding=UTF-8 +Categories=AudioVideo; + diff --git a/etoys.spec b/etoys.spec index 667e380..5d433af 100644 --- a/etoys.spec +++ b/etoys.spec @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ %define name etoys %define version 3.0.2160 -%define release 1 +%define release 1%{?dist} %define source %{name}-%{version} Name: %{name} @@ -9,12 +9,12 @@ Version: %{version} Release: %{release} Vendor: Viewpoints Research URL: http://squeakland.org/ -License: MIT/Apache +License: ASL 2.0 and MIT BuildArchitectures: noarch BuildRoot: %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XXXXXX) Source: %{source}.tar.gz +Source2: etoys.desktop Group: Development/Languages -Prefix: /usr Requires: squeak-vm >= 3.10 Requires: shared-mime-info BuildRequires: gettext @@ -32,31 +32,49 @@ be done over the Internet. %prep %setup -n %{source} +cp -p %SOURCE2 . %build -./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr +./autogen.sh --prefix=%{_prefix} make ROOT=%{buildroot} %{?_smp_mflags} %install [ -n "%{buildroot}" -a "%{buildroot}" != "/" ] && rm -rf "%{buildroot}" make install-etoys ROOT=%{buildroot} +# these files will be put in std RPM doc location +rm -rf %{buildroot}%{_datadir}/doc/etoys + +install -D etoys.desktop %{buildroot}%{_datadir}/applications/etoys.desktop +install -D activity-etoys.svg %{buildroot}%{_datadir}/pixmaps/activity-etoys.svg + %clean [ -n "%{buildroot}" -a "%{buildroot}" != "/" ] && rm -rf "%{buildroot}" %post /usr/bin/update-mime-database /usr/share/mime &> /dev/null +update-desktop-database &> /dev/null || : %postun /usr/bin/update-mime-database /usr/share/mime &> /dev/null +update-desktop-database &> /dev/null || : %files -/usr/share/etoys -/usr/bin/etoys -/usr/share/doc/etoys -/usr/share/mime/packages/etoys.xml +%defattr(-,root,root,-) +%doc ChangeLog LICENSE NOTICE README +%{_datadir}/etoys +%{_bindir}/etoys +%{_datadir}/mime/packages/etoys.xml +%{_datadir}/applications/* +%{_datadir}/pixmaps/* + %changelog +* Fri Nov 14 2008 Gavin Romig-Koch <gavin(a)redhat.com> +- added %{?dist} to release +- altered the License field to use cononical License short names +- remove the Prefix (relocatable) field +- added .desktop file and etoys icon. * Wed Oct 29 2008 Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de> - 3.0.2160-1

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[Etoys] Updates updated
by Yoshiki Ohshima 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Hello, There was some shuffling of the update numbers around Etoys 3.0 and Etoys 3.1. The rationale for doing this is that we need to ask everybody to download the Etoys 4.0 image *very soon*, and keeping the numbers saner would help. So, the koEnvironment.cs is affected. If you already made an image with the change and customize it... We need to ask you to do it with a fresh image again. Sorry for the inconvenience. Currently, from an early 3.0 image, you can fetch all the updates through 3.1 automatically (with a few clicks). And, the plan now is that we will *soon* push more changes to the 4.0 update stream, and we live on that stream until we need to bump it to 4.1. Thank you! -- Yoshiki

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Re: [Etoys] Korean Language Environment ChangeSet in Etoys & Squeak 3.10
by SeungBum Kim 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Thank you very much. BTW, do you use the same update list for both OLPC image and SqueakLand image?, and when do you make a next major build for Etoys 3.1? It means that we only have a chance to update the language file to include it in the major build at that time. We've not tried Pango support yet. If you have some documentation on it, please let me know it. P.S. From now, we (Korean Squeakers) will try to use the etoys mailing list for this kind of questions. :) On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Takashi Yamamiya <tak(a)metatoys.org> wrote: > Hi janggoon and SeungBum, > > Thank you for the Korean patch. I uploaded it into the update list as > 2194koEnvironment.cs. To confirm, please: > > 1) download http://etoys.laptop.org/src/etoys-dev.zip > 2) press "load code updates" (it downloads up to #2160) > 3) do it SystemVersion newVersion: 'etoys3.1' > 4) press "load code updates" again. > > Your file will be included in next major build. > > To upload .po file, sign up both https://dev.laptop.org/translate/ and > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Pootle#Sign-up your name as an > administrator, and Pootle's admin person will give you permission to > submit a translation. > > About font files, I think downloading from squeak.kr is O.K, although > we might be able to provide a disk space on squeakland server. Another > option is Pango with native fonts, have you tried Pango support > anyway? > > Cheers, > - Takashi > > SeungBum Kim wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'll add some information on this message. >> We need two things to have the Korean Etoys from SqueakLand. >> >> 1. The current Etoys is needed to patch with the attached file that >> janggoon sent. After patching with it, Korean users can use Korean >> directly with Etoys downloaded from SqueakLand website like Japanese >> users do. :) >> >> Actually, we prepared the Korean environment patch for Squeak 3.10 on >> the SqueakMap, but we don't know how to add it in current Etoys. >> >> We are serving the font file from the squeak.kr because of a network >> bandwidth and a file size. However if you have an another plan to >> serve additional resources such as a font file, please let us know it. >> >> 2. We need a permission to upload .po file on Etoys Pootle system. >> Please let janggoon know how to get it. He will upload a .po file >> soon, which is a newly translated language file from several export >> volunteers. >> >> I always thank you for your and VPRI's supports. >> >> SeungBum Kim (picxenk) >> >> 2008/11/13 YunJae Jang <janggoons(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> Hi. My name is Jang, YunJae (nickname. janggoon) >>> I'm a Korea squeaker and I like the squeak. :) >>> Also, I work with SeungBum. >>> >>> I had to change the KoreanEnvironment source code. >>> I was tested on Windows XP, Vista and Mac OS X 10.4 >>> Hangul input and output will be well. >>> >>> I hope that KoreanEnvironment source code changes. (Etoys in >>> SqueakLand.org) >>> I hope that in Korea, these things happen. >>> download the Etoys with Squeakland.org, >>> and then choose language the korean, >>> automatically, download the Korean font(in squeak.kr/data), >>> finally, the Hangul can be used freely in Etoys. >>> >>> The ChangeSet file as an attachment. >>> I'm waiting for your answer. >>> >>> Thank you. >

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Re: [Etoys] unable to keep current projext: duplicate selector
by Yoshiki Ohshima 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

At Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:14:04 -0800, Scott Wallace wrote: > > Thanks for responding to this, Yoshiki -- even while you're still on > vacation ;-) It is a time not doing any meaningful stuff for long. "I allow myself to do some emailing at least". > * From the debug logs attached, one can see that the version he is > running is "Image: Squeakland-OLPC [Letztes Update: #2139]" > > * Since the children are "unable to save their project," it's unclear > what Markus would be able to send us, beyond the debug logs he already > sent. > > * Incidentally, my camel-case-fix fileout has not yet been published > anywhere, so it's unlikely to be the culprit here. Ah, right. And probably he cannot send the "project"... -- Yoshiki

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[Etoys] OGG
by antonio 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

Hello, I'm testing GstreamerPlayer with an OGG video but I get an error: "Compressed data is corrupt", I work with a Debian Lenny, EtoysV4.sources and whit a very recent version of squeak-vm_3.10.3... that includes all the neccesary (I believe), Can be the problem out of the VM?, I speak about librairies..., perhaps developers have done the test with Fedora linux and there are some diferences. I have installed most of gstreammer0.10 packages but, for example, I see in Fedora gstreamer-python-0.10.11-2.fc9.i386.rpm, and Debian uses python-gst0.10. We can investigate inside the VM, but I would like to be sure the problem isn't out. Thanks in advance

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[Etoys] Translation on traditional chinese
by Hilaire Fernandes 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

Hello guys, I gave a few talks in Taiwan about XO, Etoys, Smalltalk and Dr.Geo II There are some interest to translate DrGeo in traditonal Chinese. I proposed it could also cover Etoys translation. Are you aware of any effort for such translation. When it comes to oriental languages, does the font need to be part of the Etoys image, or can it be from the host operating system? Hilaire -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

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Re: [Etoys] [Localization] How to translate or buil my own help system for etoys OLPC?
by Bert Freudenberg 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

On 06.11.2008, at 17:01, Luis Valente wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to help a lot of children using the eToys OLPC but I need > to have the help flap in our language or create a customised help > system for us. How do I do that? Can anyone help me? Hi Luis, the help cards (we call them "quick guides") are not yet translatable automatically, we have a ticket open about that but no code yet: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4147 A work-around would be that you send the translations for each card to the Etoys list (*) and some Etoys developer would manually create new guides which would replace the English ones in /usr/share/etoys/ QuickGuides. - Bert - (*) http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys

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