etoys-dev December 2008

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[Etoys] Can Playing of Etoys Event Theatre be saved as screencast (e.g. OGG)?
by Milan Zimmermann 21 Dec '08

21 Dec '08

I cannot find any option for it, but was wondering if "playing" of Event Theatre can be "saved as" or converted to a video format such as ogg. I realize one can use a screencast software to capture that section of window but that seems to be a 2-step process, external to etoys.. Thanks Milan

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[Etoys] Etoy project in a Seaside image
by Chris Cunnington 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

OK, I see that an Etoys project not being able to enter a Seaside image is not relevant here. The way http://www.squeakland.org/launcher/?http://www.squeakland.org/content/artic… and http://squeak.educarex.es:9090/seaside/SBSuperSwikiserve Etoys are different. The former combines a project file like Sun_Earth_Moon and some kind of JavaScript file. I can take the URL used as the query parameter and download that project. Something in the /launcher directory is making the handshake with the plugin on my Mac. I guess that's where the JavaScript file is. educarex.es is using SS2. It's serving Etoys in a Seaside page. Great. That's what I want. I want to make a page in Seaside, and put in an Etoy as part of the page; not the whole page. So the way to make a Seaside page serving an Etoy is in SS2, in a renderContentMethod: somewhere. And I keep saying I want to put an Etoy in a window, not the whole page. Are Etoys fixed at 1024x768, do they scale to the space they're in, can they be made smaller? OK, I found the method I need to examine. SBSuperSwikiProjectLauncher>>renderContentOn: That seems to possess what I need to learn how to put an Etoy in one of my Seaside images. Again though, is 1024x768 the only size? I want an animation that is part of the picture, not the whole picture.

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[Etoys] Etoy project in a Seaside image
by Chris Cunnington 20 Dec '08

20 Dec '08

I've been playing with SuperSwiki2. Very impressive. It's an all-in-one solution. I just want to serve some Etoys projects with a regular Seaside image. Shouldn't be too hard, should it? SS2 uses Seaside. Check. Etoys projects are rejected by standard Squeak and Seaside images. No check. Squeakland offers the plug-in to see an Etoy in a browser. Check. What parts of SS2 do I need to file into a regular Seaside image to serve an Etoy?

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[Etoys] commercial for OLPC from Waveplace
by Timothy Falconer 18 Dec '08

18 Dec '08

Hi everyone, Bill Stelzer from Waveplace has created a 30 second commercial for OLPC using footage from our Haiti and Nicaragua pilots: http://www.youtube.com/waveplace Please rank us and comment us and share us and all that YouTube stuff. We need friends. In other news, the government of Nicaragua received 3,200 XO laptops from a local donor and wants Waveplace to train 400 teachers in 200 schools. Wow. More details can be found in our newsletter: http://waveplace.com/news/newsletter/web.jsp?id=13 You can subscribe to the newsletter at: http://waveplace.com/subscribe/ Should be an exciting year. We've got pilots planned in all four of our existing areas, along with a a few other possible locations in the Caribbean. As for the many who have asked about our upcoming documentary and new textbook, we're still trying to find funds to complete them. We've shot over 100 hours of video, much with the same quality as our many shorts. A call from a donor could come at any time. Maybe from you? Take care, Tim -- Timothy Falconer Immuexa Corporation http://immuexa.com 610-797-3100

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[Etoys] squeakland people
by Timothy Falconer 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

Hi folks, Here's a write-up of roles & responsibilities for Squeakland. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Tim -- Timothy Falconer Immuexa Corporation http://immuexa.com 610-797-3100

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[Etoys] opening of older projects on the xo-etoys
by Rita Freudenberg 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

Hi all, this is not a new problem, but still unresolved. When I open an etoys project with the XO image that has been developed with an older etoys version, the green navigation bar on the top of the project will most likely hide parts of my project. That is highly annoying, especially for first time users of etoys, who are browsing through existing projects on a website. There are so many wonderful projects out there! We will show more of them on the squeakland website, but we want an exciting experience for the users. So I would ask you what we could do to solve this problem. Maybe, when an older project is detected, the green navigation bar will disappear and the orange flap on the bottom will be shown? The would not have a consisting look of the projects, but that is due to the different versions, we could communicate that, but at least the projects could be used. To just move the world down 100 pixels would bring problems with scripts using fixed values for the y-axis, but maybe there is another solution? What do you think? I hope for your suggestions so that we can populate the squeakland site with lots of great projects! Best Regards, Rita

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Re: [Etoys] opening of older projects on the xo-etoys
by Rita Freudenberg 16 Dec '08

16 Dec '08

Derek O'Connell wrote: > Hi Rita, > > Bert posted this useful link a short while back. Control-enter seems > to do the trick. > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys_Shortcuts Thank you, Derek! I do know about this possibility, but I don't think it is a appropriate thing for first-time users. At least I would like the system to automatically Control-enter, if it detects an older project. I have in mind a website with lots of projects and users, who will come to the site by chance or get directed there without an idea what Etoys is about. And then their first impression should not be a project which isn't working right. I'm not sure if they even would bother with control-enter, I think they would just walk away. Can you see what I mean? > > Rita Freudenberg wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> this is not a new problem, but still unresolved. When I open an etoys >> project with the XO image that has been developed with an older etoys >> version, the green navigation bar on the top of the project will most >> likely hide parts of my project. That is highly annoying, >> especially for first time users of etoys, who are browsing through >> existing projects on a website. There are so many wonderful projects >> out there! We will show more of them on the squeakland website, but >> we want an exciting experience for the users. So I would ask you what >> we could do to solve this problem. Maybe, when an older project is >> detected, the green navigation bar will disappear and the orange flap >> on the bottom will be shown? The would not have a consisting look of >> the projects, but that is due to the different versions, we could >> communicate that, but at least the projects could be used. To just >> move the world down 100 pixels would bring problems with scripts >> using fixed values for the y-axis, but maybe there is another >> solution? What do you think? I hope for your suggestions so that we >> can populate the squeakland site with lots of great projects! >> >> Best Regards, >> Rita >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Etoys mailing list >> Etoys(a)lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/etoys > >

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[Etoys] Revise and QA NASA Connect Squeak Files
by Mike Lee 15 Dec '08

15 Dec '08

Hello all, Bert suggested I post to this list about our plan to revise some of the old NASA Connect content so that it renders correctly in the current versions of eToys for XO and desktops. http://connect.larc.nasa.gov/squeak.html http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=etoys&w=48600098314%40N01 I manage the OLPC Learning Club DC group which has 150 members growing. Our membership is very diverse including small children, teens, parents, adult fans of OLPC, retirees and grandparents. In my day job, I am a sponsor liaison to the MIT Media Lab. I also met Alan Kay at the Diamond Exchange in Monterey earlier this year. http://www.olpclearningclub.org The Learning Club meets monthly at the Arlington Virginia Career Center, Gallaudet University or Nortel Networks. About a dozen of us are interested in revising these NASA files in a one-day Jam as a way of getting us more familiar with using eToys. The Jam is scheduled for January 17, 2009 at the Arlington Career Center. Nortel Networks will fund some of the expenses. Our connection to NASA is Jim Egenrieder of the Virginia Tech Math and Science Education Programs. Jim has a relationship with the NASA Langley Research Center as part of his work with their eClips project. I have also been in touch with Randy Caton, the original author, who is in retirement, but cheers us on. He may get involved again at some point in the near future. I'll share my work plan in the coming days if there is interest. I also welcome suggestions from this list of other ways our group can help. Mike http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mikelee

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[Etoys] unable to keep current projext: duplicate selector
by Markus Schlager 14 Dec '08

14 Dec '08

Hi all, Using etoys in class (11th grade in Germany) on Linux (ubuntu gutsy) several pupils had the problem not to be able to save their porject due to an 'error: duplicate selector'. This error shows up as well, when they are dragging a 'players'-tool from the supplies flap into the world. Some debug-logs for these two situations are attached. I'm not sure, what they did wrong. Since several pupils had this problem already, this might be a rather common mistake. Maybe they had a variable and a script with the same name, or they deleted a script and created another one having the same name. Unfortunately I don't know what they did, and they weren't able to tell me what they had done that might cause the problem. Any ideas? Markus ----------------------------------------------- Markus Schlager m.slg(a)gmx.de

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Re: [Etoys] Translation on traditional chinese
by Yoshiki Ohshima 11 Dec '08

11 Dec '08

At Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:28:32 +0800, Steven Shiau wrote: > > Could you please use "Chinese (Taiwan)" instead of "Chinese (TAIWAN, > PROVINCE OF CHINA)" here ? I know, I would rather do it if I could take the liberty... But it is defined in ISO: http://www.iso.org/iso/country_codes/iso_3166-faqs/iso_3166_faqs_specific.h… -- Yoshiki

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