On 29.10.2009, at 09:03, Walter Bender wrote:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert@freudenbergs.de
wrote: Begin forwarded message:
From: Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de Date: 29. Oktober 2009 08:39:11 GMT-04:00 To: Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernandes@edu.ge.ch Cc: OLPC Devel devel@laptop.org Subject: Re: Sharing files among several XO
On 29.10.2009, at 02:47, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
Under Etoys, If I keep down the mouse button and choose "Save under another name" (I am not sure about the exact message), and save the project with another name, then in the journal the previous instance of the project is replaced with this new one. I will check again tonight.
Note: Pay attention I am not just using the Keep button
Why?!
Simply stop Etoys to save to the Journal, overwriting the previous entry.
Simply click the Keep button to create a new entry in the Journal.
Simply edit the name in the Etoys toolbar to rename. Or rename in the Journal.
The hidden save menu options let you save to a file or upload to the Squeakland website. They do not save to the Journal. They are hidden for a reason.
- Bert -
If anybody has ideas on how to avoid misconceptions like above, let's hear them.
I think that if the Sugar sharing and versioning were working better, then this problem/misconception would never have arisen. 0.84/86 addresses many of the sharing issues. We'll be discussing versioning in Bolzano as part of our 0.88 plans. The good news is that OLPC seems to be motivated to get 0.86 onto the XO 1.5 machines.
-walter
How would that address the differences between using Etoys on a machine with a user-managed file system and Etoys on Sugar with automatic saving?
Are you suggesting that when running under Sugar, we should disable Etoys' ability to work with the filesystem directly? What Hilaire ran into is that he accidentally used the lower-level filesystem interface instead of the higher-level Journal interface.
- Bert -