On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Ricardo Moran richi.moran@gmail.com wrote:
I think I found the bug. It seems when I look for the selected type I take the vocabulary named as the button's label, which is translated, in my case to "Sonido". So no initial value is found for this unknown vocabulary. I fixed it in Etoys-Richo.106
Cheers, Richo
Great !
Karl
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Ricardo Moran richi.moran@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:39 PM, karl ramberg karlramberg@gmail.com wrote: (...)
I think Steve's story means that if you just listen and do what others think the result will be that you do nothing.
Oh, thanks for the explanation :)
This work should be included in next release :-)
I found a issue with variable type sound I says 'no value' and I can't drop a sound tile to it. Do you have a suggestion ?
That's weird, my image makes a valid slot but if I load the change set in a 4.1 image I get the same error. I'll look at it and then I'll directly commit the changes to etoys if you agree.
Cheers, Richo
Karl
Cheers, Richo
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:30 PM, karl ramberg karlramberg@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Steve Thomas sthomas1@gosargon.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Scott Wallace scott.wallace@squeakland.org wrote: > > On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Ricardo Moran wrote: > > Hi again, I've been working on the "decimal places" option and now > I > don't > feel is a good idea because we would still have the "decimal > places..." > menu > item in system-defined slots. I feel this wouldn't be very > consistent. > Maybe > the dialog with just name & type would be good enough. > > > Arguably yes... However, since you've already done the work to have > the > decimal-places element come and go in the panel, depending on the > type > chosen, and since its presence in the panel helps make users > conscious > of > the "decimal places" feature, which they might otherwise not be > aware > of, > maybe we should keep it there... > > In any case, this is an excellent and timely and really welcome > piece > of > work, Richo -- yay! > > Any comments from Ed Team about this?
Comments :
Richo Rocks When when I click on the Type - a new window pops up, which I find visually distracting
Having something similar to clicking on the sound tile in a "make sound" tile in a scriptor is better
The difference is that the variable menu has a 'header'. I like that it tells what it is that you are supposed to do with these abstract entities that change what the variable means. The sounds menu is a little simpler because they are just sound names, no semantic change.
Karl
A further improvement would be something more like a drop down menu, where the colors don't change and as you mouse over the selections they are highlighted.
I like the showing of decimal places when you select number. Consistency and minimalism are great (but not always best for new learners) I would put back the title bar "Add Variable" as it is not obvious what the downward pointing pink arrow does (ah the curse of knowledge when the expert is trying to teach the novice)
Finally my dear Ricardo, you may wish to consider heading the advise of Ben Franklin to Thomas Jefferson when he was drafting the Decleration of Independence: "I have made a rule, whenever in my power, to avoid becoming the draughtsman of papers to be reviewed by a public body. I took my lesson from an incident which I will relate to you. When I was a journeyman printer, one of my companions, an apprentice hatter, having served out his time, was about to open shop for himself. His first concern was to have a handsome signboard, with a proper inscription. He composed it in these words, 'John Thompson, Hatter, makes and sells hats for ready money,' with a figure of a hat subjoined. But thought he would submit it to his friends for their amendments. The first he showed it to thought the word 'Hatter' tautologous, because followed by the words 'makes hats,' which showed he was a hatter. It was struck out. The next observed that the word 'makes' might as well be omitted, because his customers would not care who made the hats. If good and to their mind, they would buy them, by whomsoever made. He struck it out. A third said he thought the words 'for ready money' were useless, as it was not the custom of the place to sell on credit. Every one who purchased expected to pay. They were parted with, and the inscription now stood, 'John Thompson sells hats.' 'Sells hats!' says the next friend. 'Why, nobody will expect you to give them away. What then is the use of that word?' It was stricken out, and 'hats' followed it, the rather as there was one painted on the board. So the inscription was reduced ultimately to 'John Thompson,' with the figure of a hat subjoined."
Stephen
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