Thanks all for the replies. About searchable list (scratches head) I had tried googling using "site:lists.laptop.org" in the past but did not get results from the actual Etoys list. I do now so thanks for the reminder.
For background info: for several months I have restricted myself to Etoys and tile-based scripting to get a better appreciation of Etoys myself but also to gain some perspective on what an end-user/ non-programmer (child/ parent/ teacher) may experience and especially the problems they may encounter. So while I personally can find my way around most problems I usually call a halt where I think a newcomer may get completely stuck. I started this exercise using the image from http://etoys.laptop.org/src/etoys-dev.zip and pull down updates on a regular basis. I chose this one assuming it best represented any future public release (sans example projects) and to avoid posting bug reports on things that may already have been fixed. A count today reveals my image contains 51 projects about 2/3 of which are specifically for investigating various aspects of Morphs/EToy/scripting.
I am running on winxp with a 3.10.2 (alpha) vm, don't have access to an XO and assuming that the Etoys image will eventually be hw/os agnostic... all of which should have been stated in my original post, sry!
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima yoshiki@vpri.org wrote:
If you're running Etoys on Sugar, the previous project button is smart enough not to go beyond the default project. It could be the same on the other platforms.
I have checked again and the problem only exists in the original image from etoys-image-and-pr.zip. With updates the button alternates between the default project and the last project entered. This makes sense but of out interest why can the root project not be the default?
At Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:57:03 +0900, Korakurider wrote:
Derek, The distribution is configured for Sugar platform that has only one button for project navigation. The same image can be configured as appropriate for use on other platforms (i.e. Squeakland Etoys, aka: Squeakland OLPC) that have prev/next buttons for navigating projects. I don't know how to configure it, Yoshiki could explain...
I can appreciate the simplicity of the single button approach.
It will be released in near future, while right now older version is still available (http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/2008-May/002307.html).
Ah yes, I downloaded this when it was posted and many thanks to those working on it. One thing I did notice was the absence of the project name in the nav bar. Is this to return in the next version? Should I be pulling down updates for it or waiting for the next release?
Is it right to assume that this release and the reference to SqueakLand implies that OLPC Etoys *is* going platform agnostic? In which case will references to "sugar" be renamed? I ask this out of ignorance of how exactly Etoys interacts with Sugar. I should make amends but since I don't ever expect to own an XO it would be a distraction.
As an aside: I did plan to migrate to that release but discovered problems saving/loading projects which contain child projects (in etoys-dev).
Subbu wrote:
Alt-, (comma) and then use the projects .. submenu.
Thanks. I failed to make it clear in my original post that I was considering the problem (now solved) from the perspective of a newcomer, perhaps a child being isolated from complicated key combo's and menus.