Hi all,
Sorry, I hope this time the mail comes properly now.
Offray
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Hi all,
Diego Gomez Deck escribió:
Hi folks,
Almost all of the features you're talking about are already implemented (and working for years) in the Small-Land image.
That was what I was talking about in my mention on the Extremadura's Squeak images. Nice to have the author on this threat also :) and to have the possibility to finally talk with you (Blog commentaries and MSN talk were not much helpful previosly)
In beginner mode, the dockbars can't be removed nor moved nor sized. But in non-beginner mode, the standard halos are available to handle the dock-bars.
And as I said, this helps a lot to beginners in my experiences using the Extremadura's Squeak image for teaching at University.
More to say: This Small-Land changes are already included in 3.9. I propose to use/expand THIS work instead of create another implementation.
Would be nice to have the look and feel of the Yoshiki's dock bar in the behavior of the Diego's dock bar. But the dock bar seems a little buggy on 3.9. It works on 3.9-final#7067, but on previous or latter ones it doesn't keeps inside the projects even in the option "show dock bar" is enabled and one need to to disable and enable it to see inside every project and to get a consistent interface. On the other hand change sets for bugs like the one in bookmarks inside bookmorphs work well on OLPC image and Squeakland image but are not applicable on Extremadura's image. That fragmentation of work creates barriers for newcomers to the Squeak world in having a coherent view of the "different Squeaks", and lacks from sense compatibility and continuity from the omni user point of view. May be, as a new comer that I'm, I'm loosing something about some Squeak way to do things, but other newcomers here in Colombia share the same feeling and would be nice to have some defense or reason about that. ¿Would be possible to have more continuity on the "Squeak Multiverse"? and, for example, going from eToys to Bots Inc (and even Scratch) and from one interface to another or even generate content in one image to be usable in other even considering the different aspect ratio and screen resolution.
Cheers,
-- Diego
Cheers,
Offray